RAH management says no to extending FO pay rates

surreal1221 said:
Perhaps, but they have something most pilot groups lack - leverage. Oh and no RLA.

And I imagine most captains at any mainline are making more than the basic secretary at ALPA national.
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It's because ALPA (and I suspect most unions are like this), is an organization geared to the top x%..... it's a Captain's union. One look at Pinnacle negotiations confirms this, and its backed up by the anecdotal evidence of what DALPA is doing (or not doing, more appropriately), for its junior pilots.
 
Polar742 said:
I was in Vegas to meet, greet, drink beer and chase my wife around the hotel room naked, not talk union politics.
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You can always call me, then. My number is in the email from the NJC contact list. Happy to answer questions at any time.

Again, I'll say this. Discussing faults of a member-driven organization like, say, a union, is fine. I don't see where that's an inappropriate airing of dirty laundry. However, YOU do a fine job of airing OTHER organization's dirty laundry on a public forum.
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I'm not an officer of OTHER organizations. As an officer of this union, I have an obligation to work from within to make things better rather than airing dirty laundry publicly.

wheelsup said:
When ALPA secretaries make more money than an ALPA captain you know somebody dropped the ball.
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Yeah, the ALPA captains.

But the truth is that ALPA secretaries don't make more than ALPA captains, so your premise is false, anyway.
 
I'm sure there are a few secretaries who made more than Y1 or Y2 MAG D8 captains, especially ones on reserve... but thats probably not what people think of when they hear "ALPA captains" so I would have to call that statement a little sneaky.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
You can always call me, then. My number is in the email from the NJC contact list. Happy to answer questions at any time.
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You just don't get it.

You are not perceived to be a source of good information in my book. The only thing you provide is Kool Aid.

If you can't come on here and provide a frank discussion, just copy and paste press releases. Or, continue spouting the party line.

The funny thing is you don't think we all know this.

Your "leadership" style is no different than the management that shows up at a carrier, pretends everything is rosy while the employees recognize otherwise, repaints the airplanes then leaves with a golden parachute and the organization in worse shape than it was before.

As an "officer" of the organization, you have the responsibility to acknowledge the failures or deficiencies and lay out a plan to correct them. If you can't do that, and set public goals to the membership, you should leave any role of leadership.
 
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