Purdue vs. UND
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UND and Purdue are both great schools. I can say that since I am going to UND I gotta love it a little but I know purdue is also a great school with the same standards as UND. I say find the one that best fits you as far as enviroment, cost, and whatever else you think would make your college experience better. If you come and visit UND i know they will give you a great tour on the aerospace department. I am pretty sure Purdue does the same. best of luck with your decision, if you have any questions just send me a message and I will be glad to answer it for ya as far as UND goes. ttyl
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JaceTheAce
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If you are financing and paying for your education, don't do either!
Purdue will be astronomically more expensive due to tuition. UND will be much cheaper.
Seriously folks, it's a usually a lot cheaper to get your certificates at your local FBO... and you have more of a potential to get more experienced instructors (lots of old seasoned ones who will train you better). Here you get 19 year old CFIs fresh out of CFI ground school.
UND was not worth the money IMO.
Purdue will be astronomically more expensive due to tuition. UND will be much cheaper.
Seriously folks, it's a usually a lot cheaper to get your certificates at your local FBO... and you have more of a potential to get more experienced instructors (lots of old seasoned ones who will train you better). Here you get 19 year old CFIs fresh out of CFI ground school.
UND was not worth the money IMO.
eric6887
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Seriously folks, it's a usually a lot cheaper to get your certificates at your local FBO... and you have more of a potential to get more experienced instructors (lots of old seasoned ones who will train you better). Here you get 19 year old CFIs fresh out of CFI ground school.
True but isn't it easier to get your certificates at a college. I mean you have to get a college degree still and it would be hard to always try to cram in your flight lessons and get a college degree at the same time.
True but isn't it easier to get your certificates at a college. I mean you have to get a college degree still and it would be hard to always try to cram in your flight lessons and get a college degree at the same time.
Blip16
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how is that any different than doing it as a flight lab?
JaceTheAce
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It's not easier to get your certificates at a college. It's the same. You're already craming your flight lessons in and getting a college degree which earns no actual credit from the flight training, it's just a required accompaniment.
You still need to complete the required credits for a specific major. Flight training is separate from this. The "flight lab" portion earns you ZERO credits, unlike most other university labs such as "Biology" or some other Chemistry lab.
Flying at an FBO and going to school is no different than doing your flight lessons outside of your college ground school courses, except the aviation college route is just even more time consuming. Going to an FBO will avoid all the unnecessary ground schools such as multi-engine ground school and CFI ground school. The average person can study the Jeppesen book and have more time to dedicate to flying rather than waisting all your time in a classroom.
What wise guy decided it was a good idea to have a multi ground school?! At UND we do.
Blip16
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CFI ground school was the only one i thought was worth while at UND. CFII was a little tidius, but the thing i liked the most was as a group figuring out how to build a really thorough lesson plan. other than that, it was a waste of time, and you could do that with a group of friends too i suppose
Dugie8
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You aren't going to get the answer(s) you want from here, especially about UND. The only ones that post with any regularity are UND haters (just because it is UND), the school could offer free flight training and they would still complain.
Ask yourself a couple of questions:
1. How much do you want to spend? (out of state tuition is a killer at any college)
2. Do you want to fly on your schedule or on a fixed schedule?
3. Without college loans, how do you plan on financing your training
4. reference above question, how fast do you want to get your training dones.
5. Does Purdue or UND offer a degree program other than aviaiton that interests you?
5a. Do you already have a degree?
6. Would you want to work for Purdue or UND as a flight instructor after graduating
That is about all I can think of for pros or cons without knowing more specifics. Your flight training is entirely what you put into it, UND/Purdue will have much more to offer in the way of resources than most FBOs, but there is a more cost associated, but not much (I did all my ratings through MEI for around 30K at UND, not including tuition, but I also got a degree).
I have seen just as many Purdue grads get hired at regionals (assuming you want that) as UND/ERAU/Off the street FBO types, etc.
But honestly, unless you get someone who has gone to both schools or taught at both schools, or some combination, all you are really going to get are the ones who know how to complain in the virtual world.
You aren't going to get the answer(s) you want from here, especially about UND. The only ones that post with any regularity are UND haters (just because it is UND), the school could offer free flight training and they would still complain.
Ask yourself a couple of questions:
1. How much do you want to spend? (out of state tuition is a killer at any college)
2. Do you want to fly on your schedule or on a fixed schedule?
3. Without college loans, how do you plan on financing your training
4. reference above question, how fast do you want to get your training dones.
5. Does Purdue or UND offer a degree program other than aviaiton that interests you?
5a. Do you already have a degree?
6. Would you want to work for Purdue or UND as a flight instructor after graduating
That is about all I can think of for pros or cons without knowing more specifics. Your flight training is entirely what you put into it, UND/Purdue will have much more to offer in the way of resources than most FBOs, but there is a more cost associated, but not much (I did all my ratings through MEI for around 30K at UND, not including tuition, but I also got a degree).
I have seen just as many Purdue grads get hired at regionals (assuming you want that) as UND/ERAU/Off the street FBO types, etc.
But honestly, unless you get someone who has gone to both schools or taught at both schools, or some combination, all you are really going to get are the ones who know how to complain in the virtual world.
taildragger173
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If you have such a poor attitude about the ground schools, then I'd hate to see what you'd be like in an airline ground school.
As far as the multi-engine ground school goes, the FAA said we needed it. Quick complaining.
WCAT1918
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not true about the flight labs at our school. they do count as credits. i agree that the groundschool portion seems pointless but i have no problem knowing they are counting as credits towards graduation. we have cool teachers too that make it go by quicker and I like making fun of the actors on the jepp videos. i agree with taildragger that you sound kind of bitter about your experience so far. training at a college flight program isn't for everyone i guess, but I've met some great people here and scored some great contacts. i think you could certainly make an argument that there are some benefits of going through a college aviation program then a local fbo, but at the same time if all you are worried about is getting your ratings and leaving, then I guess it doesn't matter.
Purdue is an excellent school! I have both a B.S. from Purdue in Prof. Flight Technology and a M.A.S. from ERAU. As previously posted, you will get 2 years of flight training in a B727 simulator and several hours in a King Air 200 or Beechcraft 400 jet if you attend Purdue. If you are selected to fly the 400 you will get a type rating and over 100 hours turbojet time as part of your degree. Be sure to see if UND offers such advanced training because many airlines have reduced/prefered hiring for graduates with advanced jet training (the 727 training will put you in this category).
Additionally, Purdue is viewed as an excellent degree no matter where you end up. I am currently in the Air Force and I can't tell you how many times I get asked about Purdue as if it's an ivy school. It's ranked as a tier 1 school out of all schools in the US and falls in the 60s out of those schools. In other words, out of several thousand schools in the US, Purdue is one of the best. Just to give you an example, Purdue has produced more astronauts than any other school combined (aeronautical/astronautical engineers). Many of my fellow graduates were selected as pilots in the Air Force. Neil Armstrong is just one example of a Purdue grad and Amelia Earhart was a big part of Purdue aviation. Just do a google search for Earhart and Purdue and you will see what I am talking about.
UND is also well known in the aviation community so I don't want to say that one school is better than the other...but take a look at the national rankings as well as what types of training each offers (does UND offer advanced jet training and how do they rank nationally as a university).
Additionally, Purdue is viewed as an excellent degree no matter where you end up. I am currently in the Air Force and I can't tell you how many times I get asked about Purdue as if it's an ivy school. It's ranked as a tier 1 school out of all schools in the US and falls in the 60s out of those schools. In other words, out of several thousand schools in the US, Purdue is one of the best. Just to give you an example, Purdue has produced more astronauts than any other school combined (aeronautical/astronautical engineers). Many of my fellow graduates were selected as pilots in the Air Force. Neil Armstrong is just one example of a Purdue grad and Amelia Earhart was a big part of Purdue aviation. Just do a google search for Earhart and Purdue and you will see what I am talking about.
UND is also well known in the aviation community so I don't want to say that one school is better than the other...but take a look at the national rankings as well as what types of training each offers (does UND offer advanced jet training and how do they rank nationally as a university).
stuckingfk
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It does offer andvanced jet training. But that isn't why one should pick a school.
Pay for the ratings that are needed and that's it. Let the airlines train you to their specific standards. Everything else is just a waste.