PSA first year pay

who exactly is being paid xxx dollars and who is being paid yyy dollars to do the same job? Can you let me know where they are on the seniorty list at PSA so I can ask why they voted this in?

Do you realize the absurdness to that statement? You are saying that a pilot should be getting paid whatever all the other pilots are getting paid.

I understand what you're getting at, but it is baseless, and your airline you work for has no one to blame for whatever crap deal you are getting except your own management. Read the interwebs, no one can staff anything, so who cares if they threaten to shut you down, are they? no, because there arent enough pilots and airlines to staff the amount of flying for regionals there are.
History shows this to be inaccurate.

Also, saying that a union pilot should get paid what the other union pilots are getting paid really isn't all that absurd. That's how unions work. In every other industry, if you're a union carpenter/electrician/plumber/mechanic/whatever, you and your peers charge pretty much the same rates. That's kind of the point of being unionized. Aviation is the anomaly. We're the only industry I can think of where a guy at one company gets paid differently than the same guy on the same airplane at a different company.
 
Well, to answer the original post my W2 a few years ago was 24k not counting perdiem. I was on reserve and never broke guarantee.

For that other stuff, I do believe some downward pressure was created on the industry but like it or not there is a pretty big difference between our little 500 pilot airline and 2000+ pilot airlines like Eagle and XJT. I am specifically mentioning them because we are going to get blamed for the crap they have been offered. The "downward pressure" created by 500 out of 20k total regional pilots voting in a garbage deal is not all that huge. Also Skywest just got a (small) raise, all that in the face of our "industry shatteringly terrible" TA.

That being said our SAP coupled with SDO/critical pay language is a pretty big money maker, and I really really really cannot overstate how awesome it is for QoL. I pick my own schedule. My (professional) life is 100000000% better than it was 1 year ago at this time.
 
That being said our SAP coupled with SDO/critical pay language is a pretty big money maker, and I really really really cannot overstate how awesome it is for QoL. I pick my own schedule. My (professional) life is 100000000% better than it was 1 year ago at this time.

There was this moment at the table where we all looked at each other when the we kind of jokingly asked if SAP would be before the reserve grid was built and the company shrugged and said "sure".

Glad it's working out well for everybody still there. As happy as I am to be away from there, I do regret not getting to have the joys of completly rearranging my schedule, dropping down to min credit and then building it all back up at premium pay. I work under a pretty good CBA now, but the triptrade/premium pay sections of the PSA contract put what I have here to shame.
 
There was this moment at the table where we all looked at each other when the we kind of jokingly asked if SAP would be before the reserve grid was built and the company shrugged and said "sure".

Glad it's working out well for everybody still there. As happy as I am to be away from there, I do regret not getting to have the joys of completly rearranging my schedule, dropping down to min credit and then building it all back up at premium pay. I work under a pretty good CBA now, but the triptrade/premium pay sections of the PSA contract put what I have here to shame.

OMG You said something good about PSA's contract......BLASPHEMER!!!!!!

KH is pretty pumped about it.;)
 
OMG You said something good about PSA's contract......BLASPHEMER!!!!!!

KH is pretty pumped about it.;)

Obviously I have a personal connection to the contract. That said, I think the actual contract that was signed last April is pretty damn good. The deal for bigger planes that was signed in the Fall... not so good. HOWEVER... *if* (and that's a big if) attrition goes as planned using just the pref interview to mainline, nobody will reach those caps. However, if it doesn't... bad stuff happens to a lot of good people.
 
Obviously I have a personal connection to the contract. That said, I think the actual contract that was signed last April is pretty damn good. The deal for bigger planes that was signed in the Fall... not so good. HOWEVER... *if* (and that's a big if) attrition goes as planned using just the pref interview to mainline, nobody will reach those caps. However, if it doesn't... bad stuff happens to a lot of good people.

Agreed, I was referencing the overall contract and not the TA that was just signed that I know you were not part of negotiating.

You know who being mad about the SAP still gives me a warm tingly feeling inside.
 
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