PSA CRJ incident

I thought they were going to go after all his certs for that one.

Is the CRJ not fancy enough to beep at you if you exceed ITT in the climb? Or any engine parameter for that matter?
Pretty sure things turn red at the very least.
 
I thought they were going to go after all his certs for that one.

Is the CRJ not fancy enough to beep at you if you exceed ITT in the climb? Or any engine parameter for that matter?
I can't imagine the computer will even let you unless you specifically want to. That's how my 30 yr old turboprop is. Can't exceed torque or temp limits with the limiters on.
 
Um, you're not going to melt engines like that by exceeding ITT in the climb. You will however, fry them quite nicely if they quit, spool down, and then attempt a relight when there's a bunch of fuel sitting in there.
You don't even get close to exceeding ITT if you keep the N1's at the carats.
 
Um, you're not going to melt engines like that by exceeding ITT in the climb. You will however, fry them quite nicely if they quit, spool down, and then attempt a relight when there's a bunch of fuel sitting in there.
What's Bombardier's procedure for a dual failure?
 
I can't imagine the computer will even let you unless you specifically want to. That's how my 30 yr old turboprop is. Can't exceed torque or temp limits with the limiters on.

True in the -700/-900 but not true in the non FADEC -200.

What's Bombardier's procedure for a dual failure?

Continuous ignition on, airspeed not less than 240 and attempt a windmill relight. If that doesn't work you can start the APU through 25k and try to use it to start an engine through 13k.
 
Working at a regional I'm sure. The guy that geared up the metro is at Shuttle. :rolleyes:

Unless you know the details or the individual involved in question, you might not want to throw too many stones please.. There is a good chance that you know may not know many details..
 
Um, you're not going to melt engines like that by exceeding ITT in the climb. You will however, fry them quite nicely if they quit, spool down, and then attempt a relight when there's a bunch of fuel sitting in there.

I wasn't thinking that was necessarily the reason for the meltdown, would that not be an indicator that something was going wrong? I don't see how all of the engine parameters could be in the green and just have a dual flameout.
 
I wasn't thinking that was necessarily the reason for the meltdown, would that not be an indicator that something was going wrong? I don't see how all of the engine parameters could be in the green and just have a dual flameout.
Again it's all rumors but from what I'm hearing the flameout was caused by the stick pusher activation. I'm not sure if on the CRJ the ignitors turn on if the pusher activates.
 
Unless you know the details or the individual involved in question, you might not want to throw too many stones please.. There is a good chance that you know may not know many details..

No doubt, it could have happened to anybody.
 
I can't imagine the computer will even let you unless you specifically want to. That's how my 30 yr old turboprop is. Can't exceed torque or temp limits with the limiters on.
Well you probably could, but it would be the result of a malfunction on your airplane. The -200 power plant isn't nearly as automated as the 700/900. The pilot -is- the FADEC.
 
The -200 power plant isn't nearly as automated as the 700/900. The pilot -is- the FADEC.

The 200 has speed controllers on it. As long as they are working (and I've only seen one MELed once or twice in 8 years), they should prevent the engine from overspeeding and the ITT getting away from you. I've RADAR powered the plane twice during honest to god 40+ knot losses at 200 and 400 feet and both times, although we did get red flashing alerts on both engines gauge sets they did not melt and I think all 4 engines passed an inspection after we landed.
 
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