PSA CRJ-700 AA midair collision

///AMG said:
Yeah, like mike said, sorry if I misrepresented the device in my previous post. What I meant was that "CVR" in the case of a tactical military aircraft, is a misnomer. It is a cockpit video/audio recorder designed to be used for debriefing purposes, not really accident investigations (though if it happens to be turned on at the time, and undamaged, it would of course be used for such things). I have no idea what the case is in a Blackhawk though. In my world, you switch the recorder to ON with a switch on the instrument panel when you "fence in" for combat or training, and you turn it off when you fence out, normally. No expectation whatsoever for it to be running throughout the entire sortie. Before solid state recorders, we had a hard limit of an hour or so on the old 8mm tapes. Nowadays with SSRs, we have several hours worth of video/audio recording, but it is not the norm to use it outside the tactical phase of flight.
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Started with the old school 3/4” tape cartridges back in the day, prior to the 8mm tapes. :)
 
MikeD said:
Man, that is terrible. To have been able to pick up the helicopter visually, I can only imagine that it would’ve been nearly under their right wing at their perhaps 3 or 4 o’clock, and thus would likely be unseen until it bloomed from underneath there as it appeared at the last 1-2 seconds.
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Also has me again thinking about the right side pax. Seen a lot of people speculating that nobody would have seen it but I'm not convinced, I've ridden that approach and the bank is not that steep, and knowing my window seat antics you can believe my face would be pressed trying to get the best view I can. The CRJ is not large, Im wondering if it’s possible that any pax made a loud enough exclamation to be picked up by the CVR or possibly alerting the FO to start scanning. Just since I agree that the heli was probably at least at 3 o clock by that point…But I’m also familiar with the last second bloom effect so dont want to make it sound like im discounting that. Just yet another morbid thought.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/s/1eK10POvbk If this hasn’t been posted.
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I've been watching his pressers, and honestly, I've really, really been impressed.

I sit through a lot of these, and have been a part of them as well. Corporate and government PR people are like are barely human, and tend to dehumanize the F out of these things, opting instead to parrot corporate talking points while providing no real information of any value. This guy has very much used a human voice and provided reasonable answers to the extent available. A very rare thing for government pressers.
 
Murdoughnut said:
I've been watching his pressers, and honestly, I've really, really been impressed.

I sit through a lot of these, and have been a part of them as well. Corporate and government PR people are like are barely human, and tend to dehumanize the F out of these things, opting instead to parrot corporate talking points while providing no real information of any value. This guy has very much used a human voice and provided reasonable answers to the extent available. A very rare thing for government pressers.
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I strongly believe that empathy is the most important leadership quality. The best people I’ve ever worked with and for care first about other people and themselves last. You can get anyone to do anything if they feel that you really care about them.
 
Murdoughnut said:
I've been watching his pressers, and honestly, I've really, really been impressed.

I sit through a lot of these, and have been a part of them as well. Corporate and government PR people are like are barely human, and tend to dehumanize the F out of these things, opting instead to parrot corporate talking points while providing no real information of any value. This guy has very much used a human voice and provided reasonable answers to the extent available. A very rare thing for government pressers.
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Evidently he was Chief of Staff to Secretary Chao, among other things.

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Ian_J said:
Probably not a great idea to accept a plane with TCAS inop no matter where you’re at. Certain airline MECs recommend CAs refuse aircraft that have certain deficiencies and TCAS has always been top of the list. Every CA has to individually evaluate the plane and all related factors before accepting an aircraft of course, but TCAS isn’t a bad recommendation.
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It makes me think of the time that Fort Worth almost descended me head on into another airplane in the flight levels. A really rare error, but I'm quite happy TCAS was installed and operating that day.
 
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Ian_J said:
Probably not a great idea to accept a plane with TCAS inop no matter where you’re at. Certain airline MECs recommend CAs refuse aircraft that have certain deficiencies and TCAS has always been top of the list. Every CA has to individually evaluate the plane and all related factors before accepting an aircraft of course, but TCAS isn’t a bad recommendation.
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When I was at C5 the TCAS actually could not be deferred with passengers onboard if memory serves, in 2021 we had to leave the passengers behind in MYR and ferry the plane to IAD when the TCAS didn't work. So I was actually surprised it could be MELed at other passenger airlines, although I just checked my company's MEL manual for the 757 Combi and the TCAS is MELable here.
 
MikeD said:
Started with the old school 3/4” tape cartridges back in the day, prior to the 8mm tapes. :)
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Not sure if that is the same as what we had in the A's, looked like a beta tape? Flew with those occasionally at the RAG and also a little bit out in Fallon, though the 8mm was the most common of my early career
 
Hiboglossi said:
When I was at C5 the TCAS actually could not be deferred with passengers onboard if memory serves, in 2021 we had to leave the passengers behind in MYR and ferry the plane to IAD when the TCAS didn't work. So I was actually surprised it could be MELed at other passenger airlines, although I just checked my company's MEL manual for the 757 Combi and the TCAS is MELable here.
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laughs in SkyWest
 
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