Proposed 7% paycut now for Pinncollaba

ctab5060X said:
They are.

Unfortunately for scheduling, the minimum connection times keep them from deadheading a crewmember and have them run across the terminal to get the flight out somewhat 'on time'. Therefore they have to plan ahead for open flights, something that they do not do well in that department.

Therefore, they resort to out of domicile reserve. That allows us to change our contact period to whatever we choose, it can only be for so many days... a real can of worms, especially if you choose P3. From my 'insider info', I am hearing that they are denying contact period changes for OOD reserve recently. Shocking that scheduling is not wanting to follow the contract.

EDIT: Speaking of not following the contract reminds me that for the past year, reserve pilots have not been able to verify if the bucket list is being used correctly. I have my doubts from this past month.

However, I am hearing that the 'transparency' issue is going to be discussed and hopefully resolved soon.
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I'll be holding my breathe. The "trasnparency" as outlined in the contract is shaky at best. The contractual timeslines are even shakier. There's supposed to be something akin to a scheduling committee with someone on call that has access to the system that can verify things, so pilots still get no "real time" looks at the bucket list. It'll still be "fly no, grieve later." The aforementioned committee was supposed to be done shortly (60 days if shaky memory serves correctly) after the merged MEC happened. As you can see, that's not very high on the priority list. Our current scheduling committee has their hands full with what they already have, so you can't put the work load on them. I wrote the bucket list thing off just from reading the contract, actually. It's there on paper, but in reality there's no way to enforce it. Even if you do, it'll be 90 days down the road or so after it's worked its way through the grievance process. By then, they've already hit you up out of order 5 or 6 more times just to get flights covered.

Company agreed to the contract the same as we did. If they can't plan ahead (and they haven't been able to for a while) maybe it's time to clean house in scheduling and find some scheduling supervisors that CAN plan ahead. It's still the same team (minus one of the good ones who is now up in JFK anyway), so I'm not holding out hope for much change....
 
heard these peaches in the crew room the other day;
-selling the saabs optioning the rest of the Q's
-were buying AE and commutair
-someone is buying the Q's
 
I heard from a former check airman that we are going back to outstation basing to reduce costs. 6 Q's to be based in CHO.

;)
 
FWIW, Full pay to the max day.

If they're heading to BK, the paltry sum the employees will give up will NOT make any difference.

So you take the hit, and they enter BK anyway. Guess what...what gets shaved off next comes off the new, lower payrate...not what you originally had.

Snapbacks? HAHA, try to get that money back, even if it's in writing. You'll have to greive it to get it back.

You are MUCH better off using the time value of your higher pay rate until BK (if it, indeed, ever comes), and then negotiate from THAT point.

Richman
 
Tram said:
I've chosen to go with the ATL base is closing rumor.

It's a fine rumor, sits well in the mind and rolls off the tounge quite nicely.
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There was an article in the Commercial Appeal saying we were trying to divest ourselves of the entire Colgan operation as well as the ATL -900s. You can use that as source material.
 
crazyjaydawg said:
I heard that the B1900s are coming back. 1 for 1 swap with the Saabs...heard it here first!
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That shouldn't be too much of a ridiculous rumor... we could better serve (read profit margin) a lot of our TX cities with a smaller aircraft. BPT, VCT, ACT and CLL would all benefit in one way or another from using a B1900. More frequency (like United MGT wants) and maintaining a lower CASM by eliminating a FA onboard. Pax may not like the change but it would be difficult to justify utilizing a Q400 into those markets and the SF340 just isn't profitable with 6-8 pax.
 
Avalon781ML said:
That shouldn't be too much of a ridiculous rumor... we could better serve (read profit margin) a lot of our TX cities with a smaller aircraft. BPT, VCT, ACT and CLL would all benefit in one way or another from using a B1900. More frequency (like United MGT wants) and maintaining a lower CASM by eliminating a FA onboard. Pax may not like the change but it would be difficult to justify utilizing a Q400 into those markets and the SF340 just isn't profitable with 6-8 pax.
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Depends on if it's an EAS route or not. Might be profitable after the government kicks in the $$$ to make it so. The problem you have to look at is how many passengers will go over to another airline because "I ain't flying on one of them prop jobs?" Delta apparently thinks they'll lose a lot, hence the reason there are no more Saabs flying for Delta. I guaran-damn-tee you a Saab makes more money flying Detroit to Iron Mountain than a CRJ, but Delta thinks the PR is better with a jet, I guess....
 
kellwolf said:
Depends on if it's an EAS route or not. Might be profitable after the government kicks in the $$$ to make it so. The problem you have to look at is how many passengers will go over to another airline because "I ain't flying on one of them prop jobs?" Delta apparently thinks they'll lose a lot, hence the reason there are no more Saabs flying for Delta. I guaran-damn-tee you a Saab makes more money flying Detroit to Iron Mountain than a CRJ, but Delta thinks the PR is better with a jet, I guess....
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Thats just it Kell.... those cities are already served by United/Continental with Saabs... problem being we aren't always carrying 12+ people or whatever our breakeven number is. CLL has pretty high load factors but if a 1900 were used you could offer more flights perhaps at the same cost. I would guesstimate that most of the folks we currently serve know why we use turboprops because regardless of what you've heard.... not all of us in the south are dumb.
 
v1valarob said:
Eventually it'll turn into you making up the rumors because it's funny. Q400s in Guam was the last one I made up, then a few weeks later I was retold my own rumor. Fun stuff.
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Favorite advice I ever got from a captain was to just walk in the crewroom and blurt out "You know what I heard?" followed by whatever ridiculous thing you can think up. I love the way the airline rumor mill just keeps going 'round and 'round and 'round!
 
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