Professional courtesy?!

The general rule..."never fly for free". I think one exception is CFI to CFI training...it is a common courtesy. All of us are broke, malnourished, and can barely make rent. So when someone needs training for a CFII or a high performance, do it as a favor. Pay it forward man!
 
When I was instructing and had another CFI ask for training for a rating My response was always this. "I'll do it but I will charge you under the table. Here is a list of CFI's that really need the time and they will not charge you, I will not feel bad if you choose to go with one of them, as they need the time more than I do and they are free." I only lost one "Student" this way.
 
At the school I work for, CFI's don't charge each other. I got my CFII, CMEL and MEI for the cost of the AC and a few cases of beer.

I will gladly do the same for any other CFI that works for us.
 
For everybody who is "at a school" and not charging fellow CFIs for training you might want to check on this.

You may not be covered by the schools insurance when providing "free" services.

Now with many schools you may not be covered anyway, and perhaps you carry your own insurance in which case all well and good. But if, Lord forbid, something should happen, afterwards is not a good time to be wondering who's going to be paying for this mess.
 
It seems like a lot of posters are of the mind set to not charge another CFI for services rendered, so I offer up a scenerio:

Student goes to flight school (let's say ATP, Embry, or Daniel Webster.) Student pays school to acquire CFI, CFII, MEI. Instructor is paid for that training.

Why then should you not charge for your services?

When a lawyer calls another lawyer regarding a case they are working on, they will charge the customer - and that is because the lawyer being called expects to be PAID for SERVICES RENDERED, even though they may have been law school roommates.

I appreciate all of the paying it forward attitude and comaraderie among fellow CFI's, but not not necessarily agree with the majority of above posts.

I do agree with currency or checkouts because that is relativily insignificant. But, for a rating do NOT agree that free is good. Your services to another instructor are no different than to a student. Do you teach students for free? I hope not.

It took me a year to recognize that if my time was booked by a student they would pay me for ALL of it. Not .3 pre/post - all of it. Why? Because my time is valuable and worth something.

A fellow instructor should recognize this as such - our time and knowledge is valuable and when supplying time or knowledge to a peer we as PROFESSIONALS should expect to be compensated.

clumpinglitter said:
It's happened a couple of times now where a fellow CFI was interested in some training from me, and when they found out I was going to charge for dual, they dropped me for someone else who would do it for free. Is this common? Am I out of line to expect to be paid for flight training? I would charge these people a superbly cheap rate, because I'm a brand new CFI. But I feel it's degrading to me to provide free dual.

I'm not impressed by such behavior, but I also don't approve of the CFIs who are giving dual instruction for free. It's like people are so competitive for students and hours that they don't care that they're hurting all CFIs in general. No wonder we get paid crap, with yahoos willing to do it for free. Wake up, people.

End of rant.

-C.
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dc3flyer said:
I'm not paying to read your posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My opinion is free of charge, my services are not, because my services are based on published FAA documents and other professional writers.

As far as I know my opinion has no substantiating basis whatsoever.

There actually is a difference here
 
I agree with the general consensous,

If you are a fellow CFI at my school, and yo0u want a new rating (CFII) then you will pay me for flight and ground time.

If you want a BFR, you will buy me lunch while we do the hour of ground.
 
Dazzler said:
I'm a CFI - I can't afford lunch
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Hey, I know what your day job is. Don't pull that CFi card around here Mister... ;)

Be prepared to lose you $$$ money Saturday night. IF you let me win, maybe I could afford some flying.... :D
 
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