Practicing stalls in a twin at night...

WAFlyBoy said:
I don't know about the private or ATP PTS, but the commercial PTS states "recognizes and recovers promptly as the stall occurs..."

I suppose this is left open to interpretation, but during my training (private and commercial), I remember being taught to recover at the first indication of a stall while flying a twin.
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Okay, so it isn't just me. Thanks, Matt. :)

While training for both the private multi and commercial, we didn't do full stalls -- just to the first indication. The same goes for VMC demo.

Neil
 
Timbuff10 said:
Anyone ever had a student freeze up or pull the wrong way on the yoke during the recovery... Had that happen the other day, sucked for me!
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Are you kidding? I once had a student put me in a power-off stall spin. I didn't even know that was possible! He just let go the controls and grabbed on to me for dear life. Flight was over after that. :insane:

Neil
 
WestIndian425 said:
Are you kidding? I once had a student put me in a power-off stall spin. I didn't even know that was possible! He just let go the controls and grabbed on to me for dear life. Flight was over after that. :insane:

Neil
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That happened to me once when I was doing a pre-solo check for another instructor's student. I had never seen that done in a 172 before either.
 
Oh man that wasn't one of mine was it?

I've had students just about jump in my lap the first time they botch a power on stall recovery.
 
John Herreshoff said:
Oh man that wasn't one of mine was it?

I've had students just about jump in my lap the first time they botch a power on stall recovery.
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It was more an incipient stall entry. I think I told you about that one after the flight.
 
USMC-SGT said:
My private we just took it to the buffet (not the all you can eat kind) it was still a few degrees of pitch and about 5 knots from actually stallling when i got the "recover"

what does that have to do with doing a stall at night over water? I guess nothing, sorry.
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LOL. . . what? :nana2:

I'm just getting started (again) on my PPL, and am still trying to get myself oriented again to stalling an aircraft. . . that WANTS to fly.
 
Timbuff10 said:
Anyone ever had a student freeze up or pull the wrong way on the yoke during the recovery... Had that happen the other day, sucked for me!
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I feel bad for the poor instructor who first taught me stalls. I manhandled the airplane because I was so determined to get that nose pitched back down.:)
 
tonyw said:
I feel bad for the poor instructor who first taught me stalls. I manhandled the airplane because I was so determined to get that nose pitched back down.:)
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Haha, me too... Before seeing my first stall I was under the impression that you had to pitch the nose straight down to the ground pretty much. I just remember seeing all brown in the windshield and my instructor saying "don't do that again!" We did slow flight again after that :)
 
Timbuff10 said:
Haha, me too... Before seeing my first stall I was under the impression that you had to pitch the nose straight down to the ground pretty much. I just remember seeing all brown in the windshield and my instructor saying "don't do that again!" We did slow flight again after that :)
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One of my students did that, though I can't say I blame him.

We had been working on pitching for airspeed. After explaining to him the power off stall recovery including "pitching down to regain airspeed," he thought to himself, "Well more pitch down must mean more speed which means more good and less stall."

Next thing I knew he had put the yoke to the stops forward and I was looking sideways and realized that we were headed directly straight down, making a 90 deg. angle from the ground. He kinda freaked out and took his hands off the yoke and the plane flew it's way out of it, though.

That is after I brought the flaps up; we went through the white arc pretty fast :)
 
Timbuff10 said:
Haha, me too... Before seeing my first stall I was under the impression that you had to pitch the nose straight down to the ground pretty much. I just remember seeing all brown in the windshield and my instructor saying "don't do that again!" We did slow flight again after that :)
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Oh, he showed it to me a couple of times, so I had the idea down. But understanding the concept and being able to execute it smoothly are two different things.

Like you, I did slow flight again and learned, hey, I don't need to slam the nose down like that to break the stall.:)
 
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