Pot Farmin' Pilot

ppragman said:
I just don't think that its valid to say that pilots should somehow be held to a higher standard than 7-11 clerks, or that 7-11 clerks are somehow intrinsically less responsible than pilots. Different strokes for different folks and all that stuff, and I know I'm not likely to convince you of anything, but saying that we have a moral responsibility as pilots to hold ourselves to a more rigorous legalistic interpretation of the law than people in other, perhaps less prestigious, careers seems akin to placing pilots in a more "superior" subset of the human race, and given our track record, is a logical conclusion that I think is invalid. Or to put it another way: :beer:
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I also agree with what you are saying ppragman... an if I may add, a crime is a crime is a crime, so who is to say that something like imbibing on grass is any worse than illegal fishing. Heck, I know MANY pilots who are drunks, but the only difference between grass and booze is that the booze is legal... does that make it any more appropriate for a pilot to consume? Not in my opinion.

For the record I neither drink alcohol or smoke the reef.
 
jwp_145 said:
Heck, I know MANY pilots who are drunks, but the only difference between grass and booze is that the booze is legal... does that make it any more appropriate for a pilot to consume? Not in my opinion.
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It really holds no relevance. Both are a problem when operating any machines, but past that it doesn't really matter.
 
If he was farming it no problem since it wouldn't effecthis flying. How many pilots have side gigs to make extra money? I'm sure someone is going to think that what you do isn't right.
 
I don't want to get into an alcohol vs. marijuana debate. But testing of the substance in question should be considered when talking about recreational use for pilots. It's easy to test a pilot for blood alcohol content and determine if they are fit for duty. Marijuana stays in the system longer and makes testing for duty status more difficult.
 
Shiner said:
I don't want to get into an alcohol vs. marijuana debate. But testing of the substance in question should be considered when talking about recreational use for pilots. It's easy to test a pilot for blood alcohol content and determine if they are fit for duty. Marijuana stays in the system longer and makes testing for duty status more difficult.
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Saliva test.
 
The time is long overdue for the stigma associated with cannabis to die. As an absolute fact, you can walk into any drugstore blindfolded, randomly pull an OTC medication off the shelf......and it's going to be more dangerous to consume than cannabis. Yes, I will stand behind that claim.

The stigma persists not simply because it is illegal, but because it is associated with hard drug use, actual physical addiction, and even associated crimes junkies use to finance big-time habits. It is associated with beating women, rape, poverty, and sin. That's the reason an arrogant pilot will claim someone "shouldn't be in the air" if they smoke weed. Because, their reasons sure aren't based on anything having to do with safety.

I have smoked weed a couple nights before flying a plane in the morning, and I'm not going to apologize for it. 8hrs "bottle to throttle" is TEN TIMES more dangerous than blazing weed, yet it's legal and accepted. What a complete joke.

So, I know I risked my very certificates by stating this on a public forum, but I just think the truth is worth more than the 12 grand or so it took to aquire them.
 
Holocene said:
The time is long overdue for the stigma associated with cannabis to die. As an absolute fact, you can walk into any drugstore blindfolded, randomly pull an OTC medication off the shelf......and it's going to be more dangerous to consume than cannabis. Yes, I will stand behind that claim.

The stigma persists not simply because it is illegal, but because it is associated with hard drug use, actual physical addiction, and even associated crimes junkies use to finance big-time habits. It is associated with beating women, rape, poverty, and sin. That's the reason an arrogant pilot will claim someone "shouldn't be in the air" if they smoke weed. Because, their reasons sure aren't based on anything having to do with safety.

I have smoked weed a couple nights before flying a plane in the morning, and I'm not going to apologize for it. 8hrs "bottle to throttle" is TEN TIMES more dangerous than blazing weed, yet it's legal and accepted. What a complete joke.

So, I know I risked my very certificates by stating this on a public forum, but I just think the truth is worth more than the 12 grand or so it took to aquire them.
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:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:


Btw aren't you the one that started a thread on how barrel rolls in a GA plane aren't that dangerous? Ironic
 
Holocene said:
The time is long overdue for the stigma associated with cannabis to die. As an absolute fact, you can walk into any drugstore blindfolded, randomly pull an OTC medication off the shelf......and it's going to be more dangerous to consume than cannabis. Yes, I will stand behind that claim.

The stigma persists not simply because it is illegal, but because it is associated with hard drug use, actual physical addiction, and even associated crimes junkies use to finance big-time habits. It is associated with beating women, rape, poverty, and sin. That's the reason an arrogant pilot will claim someone "shouldn't be in the air" if they smoke weed. Because, their reasons sure aren't based on anything having to do with safety.

I have smoked weed a couple nights before flying a plane in the morning, and I'm not going to apologize for it. 8hrs "bottle to throttle" is TEN TIMES more dangerous than blazing weed, yet it's legal and accepted. What a complete joke.

So, I know I risked my very certificates by stating this on a public forum, but I just think the truth is worth more than the 12 grand or so it took to aquire them.
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Judging by another thread here at the top of the General Topics section, there are many picking up the phone to report you right now! No kidding.

Read Orange Anchor's response about no one learning from the CalCapt situation.
 
Holocene said:
The time is long overdue for the stigma associated with cannabis to die. As an absolute fact, you can walk into any drugstore blindfolded, randomly pull an OTC medication off the shelf......and it's going to be more dangerous to consume than cannabis. Yes, I will stand behind that claim.

The stigma persists not simply because it is illegal, but because it is associated with hard drug use, actual physical addiction, and even associated crimes junkies use to finance big-time habits. It is associated with beating women, rape, poverty, and sin. That's the reason an arrogant pilot will claim someone "shouldn't be in the air" if they smoke weed. Because, their reasons sure aren't based on anything having to do with safety.

I have smoked weed a couple nights before flying a plane in the morning, and I'm not going to apologize for it. 8hrs "bottle to throttle" is TEN TIMES more dangerous than blazing weed, yet it's legal and accepted. What a complete joke.

So, I know I risked my very certificates by stating this on a public forum, but I just think the truth is worth more than the 12 grand or so it took to aquire them.
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I agree that the law should be changed....Though I don't smoke pot. I value my certificate too much.
 
Holocene said:
The time is long overdue for the stigma associated with cannabis to die. As an absolute fact, you can walk into any drugstore blindfolded, randomly pull an OTC medication off the shelf......and it's going to be more dangerous to consume than cannabis. Yes, I will stand behind that claim.

The stigma persists not simply because it is illegal, but because it is associated with hard drug use, actual physical addiction, and even associated crimes junkies use to finance big-time habits. It is associated with beating women, rape, poverty, and sin. That's the reason an arrogant pilot will claim someone "shouldn't be in the air" if they smoke weed. Because, their reasons sure aren't based on anything having to do with safety.

I have smoked weed a couple nights before flying a plane in the morning, and I'm not going to apologize for it. 8hrs "bottle to throttle" is TEN TIMES more dangerous than blazing weed, yet it's legal and accepted. What a complete joke.

So, I know I risked my very certificates by stating this on a public forum, but I just think the truth is worth more than the 12 grand or so it took to aquire them.
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Pot heads should be nowhere near the cockpit of an airplane. End of story.
 
Wow, all of these good points in this internet debate are sure changing my mind about pot! And also politics, immigration, the current president, unions, and my taste in women. Which, incidentally, is the same as my taste in whiskey. 12 years old and mixed with Coke.
 
Rosstafari said:
Wow, all of these good points in this internet debate are sure changing my mind about pot! And also politics, immigration, the current president, unions, and my taste in women. Which, incidentally, is the same as my taste in whiskey. 12 years old and mixed with Coke.
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See, you're into the cheap women. A nice 20yr is soooo nice. :rotfl:
 
Rosstafari said:
Wow, all of these good points in this internet debate are sure changing my mind about pot! And also politics, immigration, the current president, unions, and my taste in women. Which, incidentally, is the same as my taste in whiskey. 12 years old and mixed with Coke.
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Old enough to buy bread?
 
Does KLM allow their pilots to smoke weed, seeing as it is legal in Holland?

I've smoked a few times, BUT I DIDN'T INHALE I SWEAR!!! :bandit:
 
It's not technically legal, just "unenforced" in certain areas.
 
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