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if i had to guess, it has to do with the doh issue with pcl pilots.

PNCL negotiating team has asked for the list to be delayed until mid June. If these idiots are your reps, call them and ask why. Hasn't Erickson and his group of fools had plenty of time to get a correct list? What exactly does he do on his full time buyout?
 
PNCL negotiating team has asked for the list to be delayed until mid June. If these idiots are your reps, call them and ask why. Hasn't Erickson and his group of fools had plenty of time to get a correct list? What exactly does he do on his full time buyout?

beats me man, i dont work at pncl. i dont doubt that the brain trust in crew planning has the current senority list all jacked up. the mismanagement and complete lack of communication in memphis makes the military and federal govt look organized.
 
PNCL negotiating team has asked for the list to be delayed until mid June. If these idiots are your reps, call them and ask why. Hasn't Erickson and his group of fools had plenty of time to get a correct list? What exactly does he do on his full time buyout?

s.e. isn't our mec chair anymore. And I haven't heard that they want a delay so that would be new to me.
 
This argument is just going to roll around in circles and not get anywhere but I'll try one more time. If you can bash someone for going to Gulfstream which in this scenario is a net of 26K then I can bash someone for working at an airline where I net more then 26K more then them bopping around in either comparable or smaller equipment.

So you are saying you either misspoke or now realize what you said didn't make sense, because even you must realize you are the only one talking in circles. Trying to change the question or your remarks is fairly see through. I will assume you realize now what you said made no sense.

In any cash, bash whoever you want, I'm the last guy that should be judging who anyone bashed on this board. My only question was if you believe being paid $13K and paying someone else $13K is really the same thing or equivalent. Obviously you do not even believe that as evidence by the redirects.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was Colgan. Our "planning" department has a hard time tracking who still works here. I know of a few guys who are on our current list, but are gone. To include one guy in our top ten.

if i had to guess, it has to do with the doh issue with pcl pilots.

PNCL negotiating team has asked for the list to be delayed until mid June. If these idiots are your reps, call them and ask why. Hasn't Erickson and his group of fools had plenty of time to get a correct list? What exactly does he do on his full time buyout?

I've been told the Pinnacle list had problems, no idea about the Colgan list. I doubt Erickson and his boys meant any offense, they just trusted the company to finally have this right. Who knows, it sounds fairly convoluted and it's possible the PCL SLI group thought everything was finally ironed out.

What's important is that mistakes were made and the Mesaba guys caught it, and that verifies to me and to our pilot group that the right people are in place. Can you imagine if it was 12 months down the road and some lawyer finds it and invalidates the whole thing?

Mesaba has a lot of lifers, and Pinnacle and Colgan do not (in comparison). Sometimes when you know you're gone in a year or two you don't get real worried about the future of your regional airline. The attitude over here is and nearly always has been different. This is a byproduct of bringing that attitude into your day to day work on the committee.

And... Here I go again... it's a good example of why you should all vote in the Mesaba people into the union positions when voting comes around. *duck!*
 
The Planning dept screwed up. That will be your planning dept down the line.

Don't make fun of the fat chick and then get caught hooking up with her.
 
Honestly, I've got no clue who screwed up, where or how. First I heard of any "screw ups" was here. I HIGHLY doubt anyone on the 9E side is requesting the list be delayed until mid-June. That would go against a majority of the pilot's wishes over here. We want this over and done with so we can move on. The guys that want to hold on tightly are just living in a dream world. As mentioned, SE hasn't been the MEC chair for over a month now. And the "group of fools" is a totally new group. Let's at least do some research before slinging mud around, okay?

If I had to make a wild assed guess, I'd say it's screwed up because of our formerly screwed up policy on DOH. We were pretty much the only airline that had a DOH and longevity date several months apart. Oh, wait. For most of us, we still DO.

Maybe the 9E MEC should start a FB page, too. I'm getting more info off here and XJ and 9L's than through the normal channels. REALLY hoping JFK gets it's own council after this is all over. We're kinda the "red headed step child of representation" over here....
 
The company "does" the list. They have already complied with the JCBA as far as class dates/DOH. That's where other(s) are having a cow. The list is compliant with the JCBA and gives full parity for 9E to 9L/XJ as far as determining DOH.
 
I requested the list be delayed until July, but I'm not that powerful, yet, so I only got mid-June..

Maybe the 9E MEC should start a FB page, too. I'm getting more info off here and XJ and 9L's than through the normal channels.

LOL.. Our MEC loves themselves a secret...
 
i have a hard time believing that the pcl mec when they blame planning for the screwed up list. the list was certified per the jcba months ago by all three mec's. this sounds more like they are trying to work some new angles at the 'nth' hour because they know their final argument to Bloch didn't hold a lot of merit. its kind of sad that their change of heart now is delaying it for all of the other pilots involved
 
i have a hard time believing that the pcl mec when they blame planning for the screwed up list. the list was certified per the jcba months ago by all three mec's. this sounds more like they are trying to work some new angles at the 'nth' hour because they know their final argument to Bloch didn't hold a lot of merit. its kind of sad that their change of heart now is delaying it for all of the other pilots involved

Some of you Colgan boys really need to get over yourselves..
 
We're all just frustrated man. Don't take any offense.

Oh, I'm not offended in the slightest.. I'm just tired of reading the ignorant dribble that some, not all, of the Colgan guys seem to want to spout..


The important thing is, Mesaba found the mistakes and they are being corrected.

Well good thing.. We'da never got a CBA without Mesaba and now they save the day again.. ;)
 
This thing has caused more smack talk then a pre-fight interview for a title fight! We can be good sports after the fight and hug it out.
 
Hey guys, your wait is soon over.

RBloch called and asked what I would do and I told him. He is headed to the Home Depot to pick up an industrial stapler and 3000 staples. Should have the list done in a couple hours.

I'm just glad its resolved and that I am #1.
 
I should add to my previous post - I'm tired of the ignorant dribble of some of all 3 airlines.. We all have our idiots and unfortunately, we can't silence them out.. I'll take the blame for Cherokee Cruiser.. Obviously though, he's not too firm on his stance as he won't tell me his DOH, so he doesn't want anyone to know who he is.. ;)

I'm a 07.01.07 DOH.. err.. well.. I was.. I guess I'm an 05.01.07 now?
 
Is that because of moving your DOH from your "sim date" to your "hire date"?

Yeh, I don't know my new official DOH.. I'm just guessing.. I started training in April of 07', I think. Something like April 24.. So maybe it's 04.24.07..
 
Nothing personal friend, but when SEricson comes on another site and says it was a "clerical" error in Memphis it becomes suspect. Sure, I've seen firsthand how bad CJC and PCL office types can ruin just about anything they touch. But this should be cut and dry. This lists were done and agreed upon. We all know that to be true. The MOU covered the rest. So if it's dribble, what's the issue? I'm not here to stir the pot, serve bs disinformation or anything else. It just seems like there is some backroom dealings going on right now, rather than the list being published.
 
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