Please monitor guard whenever you are able.

Last week when we were flying I heard an airline trying check in on 122.7 (4) times. It was dead and nobody was talking as it was and I can understand trying to check in twice, not expecting a quick response from the other end, but 4 times on the wrong freq. is pretty sad.
 
Okie_Pilot said:
Last week when we were flying I heard an airline trying check in on 122.7 (4) times. It was dead and nobody was talking as it was and I can understand trying to check in twice, not expecting a quick response from the other end, but 4 times on the wrong freq. is pretty sad.
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Why didn't you say something? I've heard situations similar dozens of times, a simple "hey, you're on 22.7" usually rectifies the situation.
 
Stomp16 said:
From the comments section of the above article;

"I don't quite understand how it could have taken 15 minutes to clear this up (my "knowledge" stems from over 5000 hours of MS Flight Simulator and reading some textbooks, i once wanted to obtain a PPL). When you change frequency you are required to make contact with the ground immediatly. So you say something like "Washington Approach, this in N-9999, i have Charly, requesting full stop at Ronald Reagan, please advise runway and vectors for ILS".

Just......wow.
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Also, don't say "this is"! (if one even knew how to spell it) They know it is you because you are the one talking! :deadhorse: Gotta love news article comments!
 
Maybe I'm missing something here. They couldn't raise anyone on the radios. Step 1: try previous frequencies. Step 2: try guard. Step 3: check connections and radio for gotchas. Step 4 (or maybe earlier) : start squaking lost comm. Should have been pretty straightforward, as I doubt they are the first airplane to go lost comm approaching sensitive areas like DC.
 
///AMG said:
Maybe I'm missing something here. They couldn't raise anyone on the radios. Step 1: try previous frequencies. Step 2: try guard. Step 3: check connections and radio for gotchas. Step 4 (or maybe earlier) : start squaking lost comm. Should have been pretty straightforward, as I doubt they are the first airplane to go lost comm approaching sensitive areas like DC.
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Only thing I can think of is they checked in on a busy (wrong) frequency, got a "roger" from an occupied controller and didn't figure out something was wrong until it was time for a descent.
 
Well, Boonder, do you work around DCA area?

I am wondering what FAA and company will do this crew?
 
Stomp16 said:
From the comments section of the above article;

"I don't quite understand how it could have taken 15 minutes to clear this up (my "knowledge" stems from over 5000 hours of MS Flight Simulator and reading some textbooks, i once wanted to obtain a PPL). When you change frequency you are required to make contact with the ground immediatly. So you say something like "Washington Approach, this in N-9999, i have Charly, requesting full stop at Ronald Reagan, please advise runway and vectors for ILS".

Just......wow.
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So people actually log MFS time? Wow....
 
ppragman said:
Why didn't you say something? I've heard situations similar dozens of times, a simple "hey, you're on 22.7" usually rectifies the situation.
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I planned to and should have, but after he tried the third time to check on, I was wondering how many more times he was going to try without checking his radio to see if he had the right freq. or not.
 
I was in front of the White House when this went down I believe. Well actually on a bench at the corner. Was a bit comical due to the police locking everything down and then one of them getting all butt hurt when like 10 seconds later he was given all clear.

Was kinda weird seeing a hundred or so people being ushered away down the street
 
I recently just started monitoring guard and I was surprised to hear how often people were calling other people for the correct freq.
 
boondr said:
Only thing I can think of is they checked in on a busy (wrong) frequency, got a "roger" from an occupied controller and didn't figure out something was wrong until it was time for a descent.
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Exactly what I'm thinking!
 
Why don't most VHF radios constantly monitor guard? Our UHF in the T-6 and T-38 (I'm assuming this is Air Force wide?) always receive guard, regardless of the active freq.
 
mhcasey said:
Why don't most VHF radios constantly monitor guard? Our UHF in the T-6 and T-38 (I'm assuming this is Air Force wide?) always receive guard, regardless of the active freq.
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No. The planes I have flown in require you to have it active to monitor.
 
mhcasey said:
Why don't most VHF radios constantly monitor guard? Our UHF in the T-6 and T-38 (I'm assuming this is Air Force wide?) always receive guard, regardless of the active freq.
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I think that's just a military thing.....ours allows us to select and deselect it though. It's been a while, but I don't recall flying civilian aircraft that had the same set-up
 
Okie_Pilot said:
Last week when we were flying I heard an airline trying check in on 122.7 (4) times. It was dead and nobody was talking as it was and I can understand trying to check in twice, not expecting a quick response from the other end, but 4 times on the wrong freq. is pretty sad.
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Could be that he had the proper frequency tuned on com1, but for whatever reason was transmitting on com2, while listening to both. That will give you the effect of transmitting on to what you think is the right freq, but never having that controller acknowledge you. If you've had to deal with talking to the company with com2 then going back to ATC its not a hard mistake to make, and one you might not notice until you try checking in with the next controller and need to hear a reply.
 
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