Places to live in SFO

I would be based in sfo and would want to be within 2 hours of a drive.

ChasenSFO could give you a good rundown of where to live in San Mateo county, since I don't know the peninsula very well. The general rule of thumb with the East Bay is that Berkeley is pretty decent (the further east you go towards UC Berkeley and downtown), but it is wedged between Richmond to the north and Oakland to the south (both of which have the reputation of being high crime areas). Some exceptions are Piedmont (which is kind of figuratively an island surrounded by Oakland for rich people live in), Alameda (literally an island!) and Castro Valley. Also if you get further south than San Leandro, Hayward and Union City I have a lot of friends from Fremont who really like living there. Pushing further inland over the East Bay Hills, Livermore, Pleasanton, Dublin, San Ramon, Danville and Walnut Creek all seem like nice and more affordable places to live, but you pay for the lower prices with longer commute times.

I don't know enough about the San Jose area to be able to tell you the good and the bad (other than to avoid East Palo Alto - which is a separate city from regular Palo Alto), but I bet Autothrust can help you.

I hope that was somewhat helpful. The Bay Area is a fantastic place to live, I hope you like it! :)
 
Thats something to think about. What are the good places to look for?

Everywhere west of the 101. East side of San Jose, just like east Palo Alto (whole 'nother kettle of fish), is no bueno. Um. Palo Alto is lovely too, but I doubt you could afford it. Campbell is my favorite part of the whole area that I could possibly afford/have afforded to live in, too.
 
I rent a room with four college students in Marin. I'm a baller Citation X pilot, yeah...

Even if I had the money I would still live with these guys. They are awesome and it's fun coming home to a party or a BBQ, rather than a cold dark apartment with moldy food in the fridge.

My neighbors house closed for 2.5 mil - so I'm ballin on a budget.
 
move down to santa cruz, grow out ur hair and start surfing. Or move into the city, it will be hard if you have a car, but then again its nice to have that going to the airport. Stay out of the TENDERLOIN, rent is cheaper there but you will have crackheads at your door step. Pacific Heights is nice but 1000/mo might not get you anywhere.

good luck
 
I rent a room with four college students in Marin. I'm a baller Citation X pilot, yeah...

Even if I had the money I would still live with these guys. They are awesome and it's fun coming home to a party or a BBQ, rather than a cold dark apartment with moldy food in the fridge.

My neighbors house closed for 2.5 mil - so I'm ballin on a budget.

When I lived in San Rafael we were in a one bedroom apartment that was around $1400 a month. The houses around us were all upwards of 1 million. I loved living up there but owning a house would be damn near impossible, and ones with actual yards (something I grew up with and very much want in my own house) don't really exist.

I didn't know you were on the X now Dave? Would this be for a company based north east of there that has Xs and CL300s? If so, congrats on that. I've had a resume in there for 5 years and never got a nibble.
 
When I lived in San Rafael we were in a one bedroom apartment that was around $1400 a month. The houses around us were all upwards of 1 million. I loved living up there but owning a house would be damn near impossible, and ones with actual yards (something I grew up with and very much want in my own house) don't really exist.

I didn't know you were on the X now Dave? Would this be for a company based north east of there that has Xs and CL300s? If so, congrats on that. I've had a resume in there for 5 years and never got a nibble.

Dude it's been an amazing year. We should have a beer. I kept things quiet since, well, I'm sort of an outspoken unconventional pilot. Don't want to tempt the haters.

Yeah Marin. Grew up here, won't leave soon but unless I go make real money tax free in Asia for five years I couldn't even find the money for a down payment. Likely it would be enough to retire anyplace else...

I'm lucky I'm single, no kids and (according to another pilot and a few pax) I look like I'm 23. No pilots know that I act like it too. It makes it easy to live with the college students, a bike mechanic and pro adventure racer (whatever she does).

700 bucks a month. It's not going to last forever but right now it's effin awesome. I'm 10 minutes from some of the best mountain and road riding I've ever done, 30 from a few surf spots and I can walk to the grocery store.

I just visited friends in Kauai and after eating fresh local fruit and ahi for 5 days, surfing and some epic MTB rides I may have found a new home. So far it's the only thing that competes with my slice of heaven.

It just goes to show you that anything is possible if you work hard at it. I work hard at being a surf bum during my free time. My advice don't get married, don't have kids and leave a copy of the predatory female in your back pocket at all times. When your 33 and you can do whatever you want and some friends have already been cut off at the knees with a divorce you'll be laughing.
 
Dude it's been an amazing year. We should have a beer. I kept things quiet since, well, I'm sort of an outspoken unconventional pilot. Don't want to tempt the haters.

Yeah Marin. Grew up here, won't leave soon but unless I go make real money tax free in Asia for five years I couldn't even find the money for a down payment. Likely it would be enough to retire anyplace else...

I'm lucky I'm single, no kids and (according to another pilot and a few pax) I look like I'm 23. No pilots know that I act like it too. It makes it easy to live with the college students, a bike mechanic and pro adventure racer (whatever she does).

700 bucks a month. It's not going to last forever but right now it's effin awesome. I'm 10 minutes from some of the best mountain and road riding I've ever done, 30 from a few surf spots and I can walk to the grocery store.

I just visited friends in Kauai and after eating fresh local fruit and ahi for 5 days, surfing and some epic MTB rides I may have found a new home. So far it's the only thing that competes with my slice of heaven.

It just goes to show you that anything is possible if you work hard at it. I work hard at being a surf bum during my free time. My advice don't get married, don't have kids and leave a copy of the predatory female in your back pocket at all times. When your 33 and you can do whatever you want and some friends have already been cut off at the knees with a divorce you'll be laughing.

How's the mountain biking in the bay area compared to say, the Wasatch Front (Park City, specifically) or say Moab/Fruita?

I live mountain biking more than I do skiing, and I'm hoping one day to live in a region where I can justify getting a bike again.
 
I'm also looking for a place to live in San Mateo County now that I'm starting to have a second income and I'm going supervisor at work. My 2 requirements are I don't want to have to worry about my car getting broken into, and I will not live in the fog belt. So far, I've found, even in the bad areas like East Palo Alto, $850-1500/month is standard for a 1 bedroom apartment. Utilities are usually not included. A 2 bedroom will go for about $1900-2400, and a 3 bedroom will go for $2200-2700. Obviously the cheapest option is to get a 3 bedroom and split it 3 ways, which is what I'm trying to do right now.

Daly City, South San Francisco, San Bruno, Millbrae, Burlingame, Hillsborough, and San Mateo are all within a 10-15 minute drive to SFO. Problem is, despite what is common in most areas, the places closest to the airport are generally more expensive since most of those homes have amazing views and quiet neighborhoods. For $1000/month, you will not find anything outside the fog belt except bad areas of San Mateo. So that would narrow it down to Daly City, South City, and San Bruno. Anything East of 101 has higher crime rates and lower rent. The same can even be said for El Camino Real, you may have assisted housing on one side of the freeway and a $1.2 million home on the other. Other rule of thumb is everything North of Millbrae and South of San Francisco is in the fogbelt and you will rarely get a full day of sun. Everything South of Hillsborough and North of Palo Alto has considerable crime rates in the areas East of El Camino, but warmer weather, usually 10-20* warmer, and rarely gets fogged in. Near the San Jose State Campus, you will be able to find great deals on large apartments, if you don't mind constant partying on either side of you. The drive from San Jose to SFO ranges from 2 hours during commute hours, to 45 minutes in the afternoon, to 30 minutes at night. Weather in San Jose is similar to weather in LA, mostly warm and sunny, even at night. Though in the winter it can drop to the low 50s and high 40s.

I know you say you will live up to 2 hours away, but you need to consider traffic. Sacramento is "2 hours away" from SFO. But in traffic, it can take 3-3.5 hours easily. Livermore is about 50 minutes from SFO, but can take over 2 hours in traffic. Best bet is to stay on the peninsula if you can and avoid having to cross bridges.

Other than that, the women are hot, the people like to have fun and almost every city has a night life, and the views from the hills are amazing. Enjoy it, and hit me up with a PM if you ever wanna grab a beer once you settle in.
 
How's the mountain biking in the bay area compared to say, the Wasatch Front (Park City, specifically) or say Moab/Fruita?

I live mountain biking more than I do skiing, and I'm hoping one day to live in a region where I can justify getting a bike again.

BWD can probably give you more info than I (BDD... hehe) can, but when I lived out there I liked it a bunch. I've never actually biked Moab but from pictures I'd say that there is a lot more terrain variation and trail types than there. If you want wide open, rolling hills you've got the Headlands and if you want deep(ish) woods and twisty climbs, there is plenty of that around Mount Tam. Plus throw in the fact that you also can surf/kit surf/sea kayak etc it's a win win situation.

I am REALLY missing not living out there right now.
 
BWD can probably give you more info than I (BDD... hehe) can, but when I lived out there I liked it a bunch. I've never actually biked Moab but from pictures I'd say that there is a lot more terrain variation and trail types than there. If you want wide open, rolling hills you've got the Headlands and if you want deep(ish) woods and twisty climbs, there is plenty of that around Mount Tam. Plus throw in the fact that you also can surf/kit surf/sea kayak etc it's a win win situation.

I am REALLY missing not living out there right now.

Me too (not the bay area obviously, just being out west). I'm generally plotting my escape, though I'm not sure it'll ever come to fruition.
 
Me too (not the bay area obviously, just being out west). I'm generally plotting my escape, though I'm not sure it'll ever come to fruition.

Well at least your airline has a shot at opening a base west of the Rockies some day (again). Me? I'm stuck with stuff east of the Mississippi (Hell, ALMOST east of the Ohio) River until I get on somewhere else. I am formulating a plot too, but who knows when/if it will start happening.
 
ChasenSFO covered the peninsula pretty well, but I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in. I used to live in Daly City. It's relatively cheap, and you can get great Asian food all over. Other than that there's not much to do. However, if you're close to the BART it's easy to get up to the city to hang out.

Depending on where you love it's either foggy or very foggy. We usually went the whole month of August without seeing the sun once. Never really bothered me because I wasn't really home that often.
 
Wow. Am I divulging my secret? Heh. Marin compared to Fruta or Moab. Well I would have to sit down with a map and a six pack to get really specific but in general I think I can solve the comparison with a simple fact. The weather here is awesome all year long. So if your a selfish self centered bastard like me you'll really enjoy the fact you can do what you love all year. So when Fruta and Moab are under 5' of snow I'm out riding.

In general the riding here is perplexing for those who are unfamiliar with the area. Lots of it is closed to mountain bikes but OK to ride, quite a bit of the trails are not on the map and some of the holy grail stuff is risking getting yelled at by an irate hiker or much worse.

I would say during the season Moab and Fruta have better trails but they are either under snow or too hot for 6 months. Yes I am a spoiled bitch. I've worked hard at it since I was 15. The most compelling riding I have done lately is at Northstar with an 8" bike. It's three hours away. But you can't beat the bay area for the views and the natural air conditioning all summer. I see many jabs at OAK here but I have done some really great scenic rides on dirt about 20 min pedal from the bad neighborhood. Life is what you make of it.

I wouldn't say there is nothing to do near SFO. The peninsula has some epic riding, the road riding is better than Marin. I did a 60 mile ride on dirt with over 10,000 feet of climbing last spring from Canada road to Santa Cruz. It blew my mind. The mountain biking near the peninsula is called skeggs or something. I've never ridden there.

The downside of living in a suburban bedroom community is the lack of girls and a social atmosphere. SF isn't far but it's kinda dead around here. Bring your girlfriend. If you guys aren't crazy and want to check out the area let me know. If you buy me lunch you can borrow a bike.
 
How's the mountain biking in the bay area compared to say, the Wasatch Front (Park City, specifically) or say Moab/Fruita?

I also grew up in Marin. I lived in the same town Gary Fisher invented mountain biking in back in the 1970s. After class my high school buddies and I would run home, grab our bikes and ride through town, straight up Pine Mountain and down the same Repack fire road Gary Fisher tested his modified Schwin on back in the 70s. There is a reason why Marin County is a mecca for mountain biking. As for the social scene, make the 20-30 min drive down to San Francisco. San Rafael and Fairfax have a decent bar scene but it gets depressing after a while. ;)

As for buying a house, the median price of a home was $750,000 last I checked.

Dave, are you at Sunset?
 
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