PKD VOR/DME or GPS 13

FAYEV

FAYEV

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I stumbled across this last night and was wondering if anyone had any ideas.

http://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/1007/05298VDG13.PDF

Between STRAW and PELKE, there's a note that says "3200 NoPT to PKD 12 DME 090*(7.3) and 136*(5.9)". What does this mean?

The way I interpret it is, no procedure turn required from STRAW to 12 DME if you remain between 090 and 136 degrees. I'm guessing the 7.3 and 5.9 is DME? Any thoughts?
 
FAYEV said:
I stumbled across this last night and was wondering if anyone had any ideas.

http://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/1007/05298VDG13.PDF

Between STRAW and PELKE, there's a note that says "3200 NoPT to PKD 12 DME 090*(7.3) and 136*(5.9)". What does this mean?

The way I interpret it is, no procedure turn required from STRAW to 12 DME if you remain between 090 and 136 degrees. I'm guessing the 7.3 and 5.9 is DME? Any thoughts?
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Not exactly. What it is telling you is that if you intercept the approach at STRAW, you are on a NoPT routing. In other words, follow the black line, and when you get to PEKLY, don't do a procedure turn (you wouldn't need to since you are already aligned, anyway). That is your FAF, so just descend.

I think the inclusion of "to 12 DME" is kind of superfluous... but what it means is that when you get to 12 DME (PEGZY) you are now on the intermediate portion of the approach (rather than the initial portion). That's another indicator that you are not supposed to do the procedure turn (which is part of an initial portion of an approach, also). So that's why it says "NoPT to 12 DME." Personally, I think that is more confusing than just saying either "NoPT" and leaving it at that.... or maybe saying "NoPT to PEKLY" (the FAF).

As for the 090 (7.3) that is telling you the course from STRAW to PELKE is 090 and it is 7.3 nautical miles. That isn't a DME, because you would be cutting across DME arcs anyway. So no way to use DME to measure that distance. The second part, 136 degrees and 5.9 is the same thing, but from PELKE to PEKLY. It is 136 degrees and 5.9 nautical miles.

In fact, all the distances on the approach plate are nautical miles, usually, unless there is a little "D" symbol to denote that it is DME they are talking about.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
No. You wouldn't need to because you are on a NoPT routing.
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Well, yeah. Ok. That too... In fact, that PRIMARILY. But you get what I'm saying.

NoPT routings are designed to get you to the FAF, instead of a procedure turn. If you do one, you don't do the other.
 
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