Piper warrior or Cessna 172?

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I can't believe no ones mentioned ventilation/ air conditioning/ heating. Cessnas are great for summer times but tend not to keep you warm in the winter time. Pipers are like being in an oven during the summer but feel like being under a warm blanket during the winter.

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Absolutely, the Cessna's are much better in the summertime (shade, ventilation, etc.)

In IFR I always liked flying the Piper's more, I have no idea why, I just did. The thing I hated about the Piper's as a student though was the big yoke. It was always hitting my knees, kneeboard and everything else. The new Piper yoke's are much better in that respect.

I'm kinda a big fan of the C-152 as well. It's a little hard to get in and out of but once your in, you feel like you have it strapped to you. Plus the Cessna's really are gluttons for punishment. I've seen those things, especially the 152's get the bejesus knocked out of them and the just keep right on trucking along, day after day.

Whatever you choose it really won't matter, since they both have their pro's and con's.
 
Bottom line is, rent the one that's cheaper
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Piper Warrior
1. More stable that Cessna (more dyhedral)
2. Throttle control is like an airline's throttle (much better than the Cessna's primer pump style throttle)
3. Has a boost pump (excellent for zero-g manuevers! hehe)
4. I little bit more roomy inside
5. Low-wing advantages...so ground effect comes in sooner (I think it can make you a better pilot?)
6. You have a checklist that is very thorough on flows
7. Cowling opens up completely - much easier for inspection of the engine during preflight.

Cessna 172 or 152
1. High-wing - great for sight seeing
2. You have to memorize a lot of stuff that's not on the checklist
3. Fuel selector can go on "both" - no need to switch fuel tanks every 30 minutes
4. You have a rear window! It can help you determine if your drifting off centerline when taking off.
5. Stalls are more fun! The plane drops a lot more than the Warrior will ever drop... it feels like you're in a rollercoaster. Lots of fun!
6. Better fuel burn than the Warrior (if you pay dry rates)

That's all I have...I can probably think of more. Most of my training was done in Piper Warrior. I have quite a few hours in the 152 and 172 with my father...lots of fun times in the 152.
 
I trained on both and when I switched from the 172 to the piper is was like night and day. I say piper all the way.
 
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alrighty....thanks for reply guys
I have just fly the piper and it was the best! Cessna's are ok but I really like the pipers better. :D
 
I like flying the Cessna when I'm flying a Local BS flight. (Going up and flying in circles)

I like flying the Warrior when I'm actually going to be going somewhere: Cross Countries.

If I was training.. I'd go with whatever was cheaper !! ;)

-Adam
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Interesting thread but here is the most important question!
Whats better Boeing or Airbus?

-Matthew

I can't speak of flying charateristics, but as a passinger, the Airbuses I've flown on have really annoying whineing engines. Different engines? lack of sound insulation? I don't know, but that fact alone makes me prefer boeings from a passinger stand point anyhow. Plus flying with a sidestick on an airliner? just plain weird.
 
Snow said:
I can't speak of flying charateristics, but as a passinger, the Airbuses I've flown on have really annoying whineing engines. Different engines? lack of sound insulation? I don't know, but that fact alone makes me prefer boeings from a passinger stand point anyhow. Plus flying with a sidestick on an airliner? just plain weird.

Yep, everyone knows Boeing is better than Airbus.

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You're completely missing the point. Which was this:

People get all into the Airbus versus Boeing nonsense, and say, well, Airbuses have these annoying whining engines. But then they don't know who makes those engines. And they don't know if those annoying whining engines are on Boeings as well.
 
I started training in the piper cherokee, about 40 hrs, then got switched to the C172 skyhawk......maybe cause i am bias but the cessna is a pain to land compared to the piper.....who cares about how it flys, they both fly well.....landing is more important and i feel so much more comfortable landing the piper......everyone has their own opinion....not to bash the cessna too much, i still love it hehe
 
No, the point was I don't like flying on airbuses. I don't care if they got magical anti-matter engines! :P
 
The bulk of my time is in Cessna 172s, although I am partial to the Cherokee. As everyone has stated, each have their pros and cons. As far as being harder to land a 172, I would see that has a potential pro ... because it's not that hard to land a 172, so why not learn something that's slightly more difficult during the bulk of your training making a transition easier.

Last time I flew a Cherokee (recently) I made a mental note to see how much less I saw below because of the wings ... the answer: not much less. Although, training it will be easier to find checkpoints when you're on top of them in a 172.

My pros for each:

C-172:

two doors MUCH more convenient
back window, easier to check rudder/elevator when doing checks prior to t/o
sight below
fuel management simpler

Cherokee:

easier for me to land
sight in pattern and on ground (checking final prior to taking runway)
new perspective (for me)
**doesn't want baloon when you add flaps in pattern, instead has tendency to drop nose -- something I personally prefer
 
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