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citationCJ1

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Well, everyone seems hiring now. What is current the current hiring situatio at Pinnacle. Since Delta is hiring, is there a preferential hiring for Pinnacle pilots?
 
...everyone?

You may want to get your data straight. Eagle hired a few guys. Republic brought back their furloughs, but still has Midwest guys on the street. Delta will hire a few guys, but ExpressJet still has 180 on the street. Colgan is doing a little hiring, but PSA still has guys on the street. Air Wisconsin has their guys back, but ASA still had 80 on the street.

There are still lots of guys out there waiting to get their jobs back.
 
AWAC hired about 20 I think.

It's so competitive out there right now it's like they're hiring for the majors. There was a guy who posted that he worked @ AWAC and applied just for fun and immediately got rejected.

Not like when I was hired, they were taking anyone (example: me)!! I think it was like 10 days from me applying to SITTING in class. Crazy times.
 
citationCJ1 said:
What is current the current hiring situatio at Pinnacle. Since Delta is hiring, is there a preferential hiring for Pinnacle pilots?
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So, are you asking if Pinnacle is going to hire, or are you asking if 9E pilots get preferential treatment with Delta?
 
citationCJ1 said:
How about answer for both questions?
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As for Pinnacle hiring...

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Sorry, but I would bet my ridiculously high paycheck on Pinnacle NOT hiring anytime soon. Probably won't hire until it becomes financially detremental to the company, or they are backed against a wall and forced to hire. They have already mentioned the reduction in flying in September (that we always seem to see) and say the unplanned absences are nearly back to normal, so no need to hire.

Whatever...

I personally think that this summer will not be fun for anyone at 9E, especially the reserves.



As far as preferential treatment at Delta... haven't heard a peep about that. All that is known right now is the 240 number Delta has thrown out. Combine that with the flow through agreements with Compass and Mesaba, mix in a ton of furloughed pilots from the past couple of years, and that doesn't leave much room. Probably also wouldn't surprise me if a "don't hire my pilots" statement has been made in some shape, form, or fashion... Wouldn't put it past them to do that. :insane:
 
kab32283 said:
As far as Pinnacle hiring, we do REALLY do need to hire some more guys and gals. We have about 1300 more scheduled block hours for June '10 than in June '09 with 55 less pilots, so yeah we do need to hire.

Unfourtnately, its unlikely that we will...Management is convinced that we have enough pilots as is and we're just calling in sick too much and that's the reason for reserves getting abused. I personally don't buy it...
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I don't either.

I have often wondered how they can plan ahead for "unplanned absences"... :dunno:


Almost as if someone said we don't plan to hire in 2010 and they are doing all they can to make good on that statement! :D
 
kab32283 said:
Disgregard....CTAB got to it before I did!
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Ehhh, don't disregard...

I only said we probably won't hire.

You're the one who said we need to hire. :D


And I fully agree with you. All this going up in senority and backwards in schedule is getting old...
 
My FO cohorts are both correct. The company will hire when they're cancelling flights left and right. Even if they're just OCCASIONALLY cancelling flights (which they already have been), it's not enough. They've said "no hiring in 2010" and spent what little budget they had on hiring paying back their loan note and "fixing it."

As for the unplanned absences, this is why we don't trust our management. They refuse to be straight up with us and cling to this absurd notion that unplanned absences are the reasons for a staffing issues. If you're adding things to my reserve schedule three days in advance, that's not an unplanned absence. That's open time someone didn't pick up. If you're extending me into my day off three days in advance (which happened this week), that's not an unplanned absence. That's another shift that wasn't covered. We're not idiots, but management apparently thinks we buy off on this "unplanned absence" thing. My question to them is "How many daily absences do you plan for?" Next question "Do you think that's realistic?" After that one "We've been having problems with "unplanned absences" for over 4 years. Don't you think it's time to re-visit the "planned" part?"

I guess if you plan for one person in each seat to call in sick/be absent unplanned in each base for a total of 8 unplanned absences a day, well, they'd technically be correct in saying "unplanned absences" are the cause. The problem doesn't lie in the absences, the problem lies in the lack of planning.
 
kellwolf said:
My FO cohorts are both correct. The company will hire when they're cancelling flights left and right. Even if they're just OCCASIONALLY cancelling flights (which they already have been), it's not enough. They've said "no hiring in 2010" and spent what little budget they had on hiring paying back their loan note and "fixing it."

As for the unplanned absences, this is why we don't trust our management. They refuse to be straight up with us and cling to this absurd notion that unplanned absences are the reasons for a staffing issues. If you're adding things to my reserve schedule three days in advance, that's not an unplanned absence. That's open time someone didn't pick up. If you're extending me into my day off three days in advance (which happened this week), that's not an unplanned absence. That's another shift that wasn't covered. We're not idiots, but management apparently thinks we buy off on this "unplanned absence" thing. My question to them is "How many daily absences do you plan for?" Next question "Do you think that's realistic?" After that one "We've been having problems with "unplanned absences" for over 4 years. Don't you think it's time to re-visit the "planned" part?"

I guess if you plan for one person in each seat to call in sick/be absent unplanned in each base for a total of 8 unplanned absences a day, well, they'd technically be correct in saying "unplanned absences" are the cause. The problem doesn't lie in the absences, the problem lies in the lack of planning.
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The reason ASA furloughed was to adopt the Pinnacle staffing model.

We got an awesome memo yesterday. Everybody is up in arms because nobody can swap or drop things because of "below minimum reserve staffing" which is indicated by a red arrow. The union has been talking to the company about it and their response was that during initial open time (after the bid awards) they will remove the red arrows from the schedules (just the icon) to encourage people to submit swaps. But "we still have to abide by the numbers"

It really is insulting that they think we're that dumb.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
The reason ASA furloughed was to adopt the Pinnacle staffing model.

We got an awesome memo yesterday. Everybody is up in arms because nobody can swap or drop things because of "below minimum reserve staffing" which is indicated by a red arrow. The union has been talking to the company about it and their response was that during initial open time (after the bid awards) they will remove the red arrows from the schedules (just the icon) to encourage people to submit swaps. But "we still have to abide by the numbers"

It really is insulting that they think we're that dumb.
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I had to read that email a few times just to make sure that was the case.. At first, I actually thought it was a joke.
 
"Remember, the red arrows are just indicators, and even if we disenable them, we still have minimums to abide by".................
 
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