Pilots who are afraid of the airplane

'05-'07. KCPS based, with several very memorable TDYs to Florida. Mostly did 702 and 714 KCPS-KSGF-KASG-KHRO-KSGF-KCPS, although of course there were many others here and there (I later stole 718 in the Baron to KMEM from DW who had stolen it from Jay-Roooome). And didn't it just wear me out? Hated it so much I can't stop talking about it! ;) We had a pretty amazing crew...mtsu, wildfreightess, and braunpilot were all there, amongst others who post here now and then. IMS, Bajthejino dropped in from time to time out of LIT, but that might be my Halfheimers talking. Yourself?
 
Boris Badenov said:
'05-'07. KCPS based, with several very memorable TDYs to Florida. Mostly did 702 and 714 KCPS-KSGF-KASG-KHRO-KSGF-KCPS, although of course there were many others here and there. And didn't it just wear me out? Hated it so much I can't stop talking about it! ;) We had a pretty amazing crew...mtsu, wildfreightess, and braunpilot were all there, amongst others who post here now and then. Yourself?
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January to August last year. I was gonna stay a little longer, but I saw what was coming with Airnet. Nice little triangle of pain you have there. :)

St. Paul, MN based. STP-OMA-ICT-OMA-STP, ugh, that gives me the shivers thinking about it. :confused: Sometimes the Denver or OMA-DSM-OMA-RST-OMA mayo clinic run if someone called in sick. Which I liked, kept me from getting TOO complacent. Pretty even split between the Baron and 210 for me. The Omaha guys hated that. Maintenance was done in St. Paul by the Airnet mechanic up there, so it was the Baron any time the 210 was down.

I still smile everytime I hear the Flight Express callsign though. Too bad it's going away.
 
UAL747400 said:
I still smile everytime I hear the Flight Express callsign though. Too bad it's going away.
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I know what you mean. I haven't heard a "Flight Express" callsign for years (what with me being up there in the FLs with the Bigshots), but every once in a while I still hear a "Rough Rider" and find myself scanning furiously to see how much fuel is still in the tips and trying to decide how long I've been asleep...
 
Boris Badenov said:
I know what you mean. I haven't heard a "Flight Express" callsign for years (what with me being up there in the FLs with the Bigshots), but every once in a while I still hear a "Rough Rider" and find myself scanning furiously to see how much fuel is still in the tips and trying to decide how long I've been asleep...
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Heh, I rode in a Badlands MU2 when my plane pooped the bed going into DEN. I feel asleep. Woke up and the other guy was asleep too. :D
 
Now which was Badlands? I've heard the callsign, just can't place it. I rode with a Bankair MU-2 guy when my 99 crapped out in PNS a couple of times. As a guy who had flown the Mitsi previously, and sort of thought he was hot poop, let me tell you that that guy was hardcore. Somehow had the trick down of taxiing on one engine (which I never did). He'd taxi out while starting #2 and putting a cud of chew between his four remaining teeth. Landed the beast like Buttah, too, and could hold 250 to like 1/2 mile final. On the shoulders of Redneck Giants, we stand.
 
Boris Badenov said:
Now which was Badlands? I've heard the callsign, just can't place it. I rode with a Bankair MU-2 guy when my 99 crapped out in PNS a couple of times. As a guy who had flown the Mitsi previously, and sort of thought he was hot poop, let me tell you that that guy was hardcore. Somehow had the trick down of taxiing on one engine (which I never did). He'd taxi out while starting #2 and putting a cud of chew between his four remaining teeth. Landed the beast like Buttah, too, and could hold 250 to like 1/2 mile final. On the shoulders of Redneck Giants, we stand.
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Haha, the guys have been flying a particular plane/route/company, specifically in freight, for too long always crack me up.

Flight Developement, LLC is what comes up on flightaware. The guys I saw came out of SLC and HLN to APA. Looks like bankair took over SLC. Northern Skies has a Cessna 340 on the HLN run now. GREAT idea. o_O
 
Those dudes all know each other, anyway. I don't think there's ever been a freight MU-2 sold or operated by anyone who didn't personally know the guy who eventually took over the route. A little incestuous community, much like my Compound...oh, I've said too much! ;)

Edit: My boss at Air 1st...no not the CP or even the DO, the guy who owned the whole shooting match (and the shop next door) was a very quiet man, obviously part Injun, and I remember very distinctly wore snakeskin cowboy boots with flair. Quiet, good-natured, and you could just tell he'd probably killed a man in a bar at least once. What a freaking cast of characters is Freight. Or, well, was, anyway.

If we ever find ourselves drinking adult beverages, remind me to tell you about the guy who owned it BEFORE him. Makes my ears burn just thinking about the Stories. :D
 
Boris Badenov said:
Those dudes all know each other, anyway. I don't think there's ever been a freight MU-2 sold or operated by anyone who didn't personally know the guy who eventually took over the route. A little incestuous community, much like my Compound...oh, I've said too much! ;)

Edit: My boss at Air 1st...no not the CP or even the DO, the guy who owned the whole shooting match (and the shop next door) was a very quiet man, obviously part Injun, and I remember very distinctly wore snakeskin cowboy boots with flair. Quiet, good-natured, and you could just tell he'd probably killed a man in a bar at least once. What a freaking cast of characters is Freight. Or, well, was, anyway.

If we ever find ourselves drinking adult beverages, remind me to tell you about the guy who owned it BEFORE him. Makes my ears burn just thinking about the Stories. :D
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LOOOOOOOOL, no kidding! There's still plenty of weird out there. Crazy Bob still works at FLX last I heard. Flight Express in general was entertaining. Ameriflight is boring in this regard. Everyone's pretty new(including me) and recently out of flight instructing/dealing with people in general. Their personalities haven't swayed to insane yet. :)

Oh, did you know Ivan at Flight Express then? He was Kansas City based, but the routes still overlapped a little the first couple months I was with the company I think.
 
Don't remember Ivan, but I do remember The Mouth of The South. I think I met him twice (hard to remember, it all happens so fast and he's always the only one talking), both times were at some random place in Bumscrew, Nowhere. Let's just say that they only made one of him.
 
Boris Badenov said:
Don't remember Ivan, but I do remember The Mouth of The South. I think I met him twice (hard to remember, it all happens so fast and he's always the only one talking), both times were at some random place in Bumscrew, Nowhere. Let's just say that they only made one of him.
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Oh man, you've got me rolling here thinking back. I don't know if I had a nickname, but if I did, it'd be "The Chimney"(smoked a lot), or Elton John since I always dressed so FABULOUS! Oh freight... I'll light one up for that:smoke:
 
chaser918 said:
Here goes the whole engine debate. The IO540 is a very reliable engine especially if managed properly by the pilot. Most of the issues that I was aware of that happened with that engine could be traced to poor management of the engine on the pilots part. Many people I flew with didn't have a clue on how to treat that engine properly which created many problems. Not trying to say the pilot group is ignorant or anything, many people just hadn't been trained very well on engine management.

We were allowed to fly at night though. In my book that is more risky than low IMC cause at least you would break out at some point right? So how is night flying justified as an acceptable risk in that case?
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Nobody my age knows how to manage a high performance reciprocating power plant.


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Autothrust Blue said:
Nobody my age knows how to manage a high performance reciprocating power plant.
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Rest easy, it's generational.

Very few people, my age, knows how to manage a radial engine.

And to the generation before, they're probably amazed no one my age knows much about hand-propping.

Sadly, there are very few of us that were part of the era of General Aviation where flying, even ownership of an airplane was solidly attainable goal as a middle class hourly worker.
 
Derg said:
Sadly, there are very few of us that where part of the era of General Aviation where flying, even ownership of an airplane was solidly attainable goal as a middle class hourly worker.
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Truth. I've seriously considered picking up a decent IFR bird like a Cessna 177 or some such to work my way through my ratings, thinking I would save money over renting. I can probably get away with buying the airplane (financed over 20 years...). It's everything that comes after buying it that makes it nearly impossible, or at the very least, not very financially smart. I'll think about going in on a share, likely.
 
SteveCostello said:
Truth. I've seriously considered picking up a decent IFR bird like a Cessna 177 or some such to work my way through my ratings, thinking I would save money over renting. I can probably get away with buying the airplane (financed over 20 years...). It's everything that comes after buying it that makes it nearly impossible, or at the very least, not very financially smart. I'll think about going in on a share, likely.
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Eeeeyup.

Compare "Flying" magazine in 2013 and an issue from the mid 1970's. It wasn't solely a rich man's game.
 
RumpleTumbler said:
Why are there so many pilots who are afraid of the airplane? I see CFI's all the time who are afraid of the airplane, afraid to allow the student to make mistakes, afraid to fly in weather, afraid of wind......on and on.

Guess what kind of pilots these CFI's produce? That's right.....pilots who are afraid of the airplane. Pilots who won't get utility out of the airplane and who breed more fraidy cats. Pilots who will never rent when the wind is more than 10 kts or when the weather is less than 3000/7 even when they have an instrument rating. Then these pilots after a few years of white knuckle teaching go on the the regionals or something similar and haul a load of people. It's dangerous. I don't want someone up front when I'm in the back that's afraid of the airplane.

I'm not suggesting that pilots should behave carelessly, recklessly, etc. just that maybe you should own up to someone and find a way past your fear if you're going to be in this profession.
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One word for you kemosabe, liability!!!
 
trafficinsight said:
You and Chaser being the exception huh? ;)
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I don't claim to have the market cornered on it. But I swear to god, lots of people have had very specific lobotomies, in which the sections of the brain used for higher order cognition and proper movement of the black, blue, and red knobs were removed.
 
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