pilots and LASIK or PRK?

TXaviator

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so... i wear contacts and have a strong prescription... basically blind without my contacts. but 100% okay WITH my contacts...

who here has had lasik or prk?

would you reccommend it?

i am still highly concerned about the side effects that people report like halos, starbursts, and generally crappy vision...

just trying to see if anyone has gone for it and what the "real world" experiences are...

thanks!
 
I had Lasiks and love it. I had halos and starburst around streetlights at night for the first few months but it slowly went away, otherwise 20/15 vision the day after surgery.
For my medical, I had to have a letter from my eye doctor to show no problems and there may have been a 3 month wait period but I don't know for sure because I wasn't actively flying at the time.
 
I had LASEK (with an E) and had starbursts around lights that slowly went away with time. It's not for everyone but I'm glad I did it.

I believe the military accepts PRK, but not Lasik. If that means anything to you.

I can't speak for the other branches but the Air Force accepts LASIK now as well as PRK. There are waviers required for both but they are accepted now.
 
Back in 2004 I went with my college roommate (military pilot hopeful) when he had prk done. I was surprised how much of a non-event the surgery was. The prep took longer than the actual procedure. It was a few seconds for each eye and he was on his way out the door. We went and ate breakfast at Dennys right afterwards.
 
My mother and two of my first cousins (same side of family as my mother) of mine have all done Lasik and have had huge problems afterwards. It was to the point that my mother had to retire early due to not being able to look at a computer for any length of time. My first cousins are struggling through life at the moment. But, my family has a history of dry eyes, and it was something non of them had properly researched beforehand (nor had any of their doctors properly warned them or stressed the potential risks, imo). So, for me, I'll never do it. My point: research your family history and ask the doctors a ton of questions prior to taking the plunge.
 
I had LASIK last summer and I have had no complaints at all. Like others have said, the night vision takes a little while to come around so plan on not flying for at least a couple of weeks if not months. After you are once again able to meet your current medical certificate's standards all you have to do is have your eye doctor or surgeon fax a letter to the FAA medical branch verifying this and stating that you have no negative side-effects from the surgery.

One thing to be aware of is that there are limits to how much they can reshape the cornea so if you have a very strong prescription you may not be a good candidate. I recompensed getting at least 3 thorough consults before making a decision and going with a surgeon with as much experience as possible because when it comes down to it experience is the most important factor. This website has a wealth of good information: http://www.allaboutvision.com/visionsurgery/
 
Back in 2004 I went with my college roommate (military pilot hopeful) when he had prk done. I was surprised how much of a non-event the surgery was. The prep took longer than the actual procedure. It was a few seconds for each eye and he was on his way out the door. We went and ate breakfast at Dennys right afterwards.

When I had LASIK done they gave me a pretty strong sedative and told me to go sleep for at least 2 hrs to let the flaps re-attach. The sensation alone was enough to make me want to keep my eyes closed. Either things have changed since '04 or PRK is quite a bit different than LASIK.
 
I had LASIK done in 2001 and have experienced no change since. The only thing they didn't correct for at the time was astigmatism so I still require corrective lenses to fly, but I don't for anything else. Love being able to see the clock on my night stand at night! :D
 
What is the difference between LASIK and PRK? I'd like to get something done just because I get tired of wearing contacts all the time, but I'm concerned about not being able to fly for a specific period of time afterwards.
 
I made the decision to get Lasik done prior to considering flying for a career. I've had nothing but the best of results.

I did travel to Canada and I did have Astigmatism. I went to LasikMD. For @ $1200 I traveled, ate out, and stayed in a nice hotel for a few days all while visiting a great city with my wife (Montreal) , and having the procedure done.

Overall, I had less problems, pain, halo's, dryness, etc... than most of my friends who had the procedure in the states, which is to say... I had none of those symptoms. :)

I now see 20/15 and don't regret it one bit.

That's my story. Individual results may vary. ;)

Bob
 
This is my question about PRK and LASIK....

I know that it corrects your vision to 20/20 or 20/15 or whatever when you have it done.

When you have it done does it make it where your eyes won't degrade anymore? I know eyes can be slightly worse overtime as people grow older. So if I got it done right now at 19 and my eyes would normally get worse with glasses if I got LASIK would they not get any worse and they would be corrected forever? Or would I have to have the procedure done again?
 
The procedure doesn't correct the normal aging process.

It's recommended to have a stable eye prescription before getting the procedure done. So... if your eyes are progressively getting worse each year then it's not recommended. But, if you eyesight hasn't changed for several years, then it's more recommended.

Small Print: Imapilotnotadoctor
 
I had LASIK in 2005 and it was one of the best investments of my life. I was like you and basically blind without contacts or glasses...along with astigmatism...Total procedure took about 10 minutes total...I love it!
 
I've had LASIK and am generally pleased. I am a solid 20/12 in one eye and 20/15 to 20/20 in the other (luck of the draw I suppose). I had a mild bit of DLK (hazyness caused by white blood cells collecting in the interface where the flap is) which took time to go away while on steroid drops. I did, however, for whatever reason, have a bit of ligament stretch in one of my eyelids from the procedure, and am probably going to have that "fixed" with some plastic surgery (and while I'm doing this get an "eye lift").

As far as what separates LASIK from PRK- during PRK, the epithelium is chemically removed (typically with alcohol) and the laser ablation is done on the surface of the cornea. You then wear a bandage contact lens for a few days while the epithelium heals, and it takes several weeks to months for the eye to fully heal. If you have a stronger amount of correction needed, this can result in a permanent haze as the eye heals. Also, depending upon your personal healing properties, there is a risk that you may not get a perfectly healed epithelium. Vision will fluctuate over several weeks to months as the eye heals and stabilizes.

During LASIK, a "flap" is cut into to the cornea, typically at about 100 microns (used to be deeper). The flap is "peeled back" and the ablation is carried out deeper in the eye (in what is known as the stroma). The flap is then floated back in place, and you go home. Healing is virtually instant, as the next day you will see incredibly well.

The downside to LASIK is that the flap never fully heals, and is always a weak point in the eye. Furthermore, since the cornea has now been cut, all the nerves that tell your eye to tear have to re-connect across the interface, and even still, you will always have less connections. This is what causes dry eye post LASIK, and why it is imperative that if you have ANY dry eye issues pre op that LASIK will not be a good choice.

The upside to LASIK is that it effectively "fools" the eye into thinking there was no surgery, hence why recovery is so quick. There is absolutely no discomfort or pain.

The upside to PRK is that the eye retains more structural integrity, and there is no risk of dry eye. The downside is that the procedure is a little less accurate (though opinions vary on this from Dr. to Dr.) due to relying on the epithelium to heal as expected. Any shift in the epithelium's healing process can cause a mild refraction error.

The biggest downside to PRK is the healing process, and its associated discomfort.

If I were doing this today, I would look into LASEK, which is a modified form of PRK where they pull back the epithelium, ablate right on the cornea, and then put the epithelium back. Still not as convenient as LASIK, but hypothetically much less discomfort and faster healing than a traditional PRK and it retains the full integrity of the eye.

Hope this helps.
 
I'm 20/15 my wife is now 20/10. I would do it 100 times over. It was quite possibly the best thing I've ever done for myself.

I had very very minor side effects for the first month but it was still less glare/halos than I had with glasses or contacts on a daily basis.
 
How much is PRK now in the states? If I had a choice it would have to be PRK because getting LASEK will still bar you from some expat jobs in asia. There's a clinic in Mumbai that has a higher frequency laser which is suppose to be better but I'm wary of any Indian doctor after an experience I had last November.

=Jason-
 
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