Hopeful Pilot
Member
Yeah I know it's not the only way but american eagle promises an interview with AA after 2000TT at eagle, so I'm guessing that it is easier.
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/american_eagle_airlines
Pilot shortage (desperate?)
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chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
I mean... To go somewhere based on the "promise of an interview" seems silly to me. Mostly (from what I've seen) it seems like management dangles the "guaranteed interview" carrot in front of it's pilots in exchange for concessions in their contract. But in reality, if an airline needs pilots, they are going to be looking and hiring at pilots from many different backgrounds. I've met pilots from AA, UA, and DL that come from pretty much any aviation background you could imagine. I do agree that regionals may be a more conventional step to go work for a major, but they are by no means the only step. And I think maybe less pilots would accept sub par regional wages if they realized how much is really out there in aviation.
learhawkerbe400
Well-Known Member
Haven't met one person at my major who didn't fly in the military or for a regional. I'm sure are there some but they are VERY few and far between.
Hopeful Pilot
Member
Going somewhere with the promise of an interview is probably not very smart if you think about it, they probably have lots of people who have also been promised an interview and are in no way inclined to hire you over another qualified pilot, unless they make it so that to get a job at a major you must have gone through one of their regionals.
Hopeful Pilot
Member
It would be interesting the see the percent of major airline pilots who have flown for a regional airline.
chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
Maybe you only know guys that came from the mil and airline route, and I primarily know guys who came from other facets of aviation... Maybe the truth is somewhere in between. But I'd defer to you because you work there. You obviously know more pilots at your carrier than I do.
learhawkerbe400
Well-Known Member
Yea man definitely not trying to say you're wrong or don't know what you're talking about. Just saying from my experience if you want to get to a major and you're a civilian your chances increase exponentially if you have 121 experience.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
I wasn't measuring the success of my career by whether or not I made it to the regionals. Thanks for pointing it out that I'm on the sidelines and watching others succeed. I'll have to make some changes.
I meant get to the majors, but sure, whatever you'd like.
Stomp16
You mean Shennanigans?!?!
I know, I'm just messing with ya. I thought maybe my overly sensitive reply would have conveyed the sarcasm I was trying to imply.
Nihon_Ni
Well-Known Member
That can easily be fixed by adjusting your withholding. For example, you don't actually have to have nine dependents to claim nine dependents on your W-4. All you need to do is have enough withheld to pay the appropriate amount of taxes you owe.
ComplexHiAv8r
Well-Known Member
me too! Ok trying to be a regional pilot.GypsyPilot said:
CoffeeIcePapers
Well-Hung Member
Going to a regional would be equivalent to me writing a check to someone for 30-40k. It's not like there's a guarantee that after 5+years as a regional FO that the majors will hire you. There's a lot of people on this forum who have been in the right seat of an RJ for this time period and are now about to take concessions or face a furlough.
I would love to work for a regional, but no amount of budgeting is going to allow me to do that.
I would love to work for a regional, but no amount of budgeting is going to allow me to do that.
Hopeful Pilot
Member
You would think that after 5 years you would be able to move up, I thought that the best regionals are the fastest growing not the best paying ones that way you can get captain quicker more pic time and then get to the majors quicker.
CoffeeIcePapers
Well-Hung Member
Just because you have 1000 TPIC doesn't mean the majors are going to come calling. I have buddy who was at Eagle for 4 years as an FO and works at Spirit now. I also know people who are still in the right seat at Eagle, who were hired before him.
Hopeful Pilot
Member
Well then I guess I was wrong, so do you just have to get lucky to get hired by a major?
CoffeeIcePapers
Well-Hung Member
I have no idea.
I wouldn't call it luck, but it takes a lot more than just checking a box.
Hopeful Pilot
Member
I thought it was:
'Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity' is a quote by Seneca which means when you prepare well you are likely to succeed. The original Latin of the quote is 'fortuna est momentum quo occasionem convenit talentum'.
Beep,Library cards are SO useful, I used mine to start my book collection!
We all have book collections... lol
ScorpionStinger
Well-Known Member
Point of correction:
Best regionals are the ones who pay the best and have the best QOL. Not the one who offers the fastest route to Captain so you can go to the "majors" the fastest.
YOU WORK TO GET PAID, not just to get experience/PIC in a shinny jet. When you assume responsibilities to operate a multi-million dollar equipment along with 20-80 lives, your deserve Just Compensation for that labor, that responsibility, and that skill set. Don't forget how fragile and cyclical the airline industry is (up and down). How would you like to be stuck at your regional airline's pay and QOL during a long down turn? Up slope don't last forever. WORK TO GET PAID and QOL, NOT FLOW THROUGHS. All it takes 1 epidemic, terror attack, war, bio-war, natural disasters, Solar Flare, major EMP (night night internet/facebook/computers, JC.com. GPS, FMS, etc. Last down turn was due to HOUSING BUBBLE/BANKS/FINANCIERS... What's next? Hello Furlough, hello regional I'm stuck at now for a while).