Pilot Records Database

I_Money said:
As a member of the flight public - I would quite like to know my pilot took his training seriously and didn't struggle meeting the minimum required standard. I would also like this information on my doctors and nurses.
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I'd wager that 99.9% of the folks flying you around took and still take training seriously. Unfortunately it only takes one bad day or one brain fart or grumpy examiner or sub par instructor to lead to a busted ride. It doesn't indicate a sub-par pilot or one that was not serious about their training. Most of the time it becomes one of the better learning and growing experiences in a pilots career and they're a better pilot for it.

The same can be said for medical professionals. To the best of my knowledge with any given patient there can be so many variables that are out of their control that they can do something perfectly and the patient still might not make it.

Are you going to deplane if you find out one of the pilots up front has a busted ride? You might want to budget a few extra days for travel until you get a crew up to your standards then.

Now, if we are talking multiple busts or a pattern with one individual that is a different story.
 
desertdog71 said:
Running all the experience out if the business hardly makes things safer.

136% turnover in this business right now. That's a scary amount of rookies on the road.

Big brother knows best though. I mean they give a $5000 grant to Mexicans to equip their trucks with EOBRs. American driver? EFF you!
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Id asked before here, but I need to ask one of the Commercial Enforcement guys....can they enforce or out-of-service a Mexican truck thats inside the border under NAFTA, now that they're allowed to drive everywhere and have no mileage restriction? Or are only American trucks held to that and other safety regulations such as rest rules or equipment? I honestly don't know the answer to that, and wish i did. Because working where I work, Ive seen some downright rickety looking Mexican rigs driving around, with who knows who behind the wheel of it, and on the roads here with citizens who likely don't know any better.
 
MikeD said:
Id asked before here, but I need to ask one of the Commercial Enforcement guys....can they enforce or out-of-service a Mexican truck thats inside the border under NAFTA, now that they're allowed to drive everywhere and have no mileage restriction? Or are only American trucks held to that and other safety regulations such as rest rules or equipment? I honestly don't know the answer to that, and wish i did. Because working where I work, Ive seen some downright rickety looking Mexican rigs driving around, with who knows who behind the wheel of it, and on the roads here with citizens who likely don't know any better.
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Supposedly they have to follow the same rules. Although I have seen the same things you have and it seems they are given a pass.

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desertdog71 said:
lilrkt said:
I was talking with my wife last night and decided to forego my 4 year degree work for a while and finish out my instrument and commercial. The only question she had for me was then what. I couldn't answer. The goal is to have a pilot job while I finish out the degree. The only problem is I do not know what is going to be available. Where can I find job listings to show here and me what I can do once I obtain my certifications. I know that going the CFI route is always an option but I was wondering what was out there in the way of cargo operations (preferably night time so I could attend class at normal hours). Can anyone give me some insight?

I live in Lapeer, Michigan and prefer not to have to sell my house just yet. So it would have to be in the Flint, Detroit, Saginaw, Port Huron Area. But sacrifices can and will be made if nessecary.

Thanks for the help.
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Where did that quote come from...??

~Fox
 
Muff3n said:
Now the fact that I already have 1 checkride bust makes taking other checkrides extremely nerve wracking.
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Man, I have no failures, and for me, the checkrides are extremely nerve wrecking because I want to keep it that way. I always thought, if I could finally just fail one, I wouldn't have to stress over keeping up the record ever again.
 
OK....so the public wants 10,000 hour Chuck Yeager's, who are also angelic in every part of their ENTIRE life, and in return pay them nothing? Mmmmkay.
 
I have been a strong supporter of better training and increasing pilot experience above 250 hours for part 121 operations, but experience is something a person can gain. With this records thing, I fear pilots are going to be screwed for the rest of their lives for mistakes they made or crappy situations they were involved with. I guess what I am trying to say is will pilots no longer be able to move beyond mistakes or failures through maturing as a person and gaining experience as an aviator?

The standards and stakes in being a pilot can't keep increasing while compensation remains flat. Something has to give. I'm betting it will be the public's desire for transportation of themselves and their goods on the cheap that will win out.
 
block30 said:
OK....so the public wants 10,000 hour Chuck Yeager's, who are also angelic in every part of their ENTIRE life, and in return pay them nothing? Mmmmkay.
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I know.

(Hahahahaha *cough* hahahahah)^100
 
Derg said:
I know.

(Hahahahaha *cough* hahahahah)^100
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Better come up with a load of money! to keep people interested in a field in which pays little to begin with whereas prospects in the future are no better. Entry level positions are great as long as the raises continue in that position and don't become stagnant as is the norm for this industry.
 
Someone has to tell those Colgan 3407 families "I'm sorry that your loved ones died, but would you please stop using your newfound political influence to enact reactionary, knee-jerk band-aid solutions to a problem you don't truly understand."
 
flyinguitar said:
Someone has to tell those Colgan 3407 families "I'm sorry that your loved ones died, but would you please stop using your newfound political influence to enact reactionary, knee-jerk band-aid solutions to a problem you don't truly understand."
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Yeah, I think things are going a bit overboard. We'll see if/how the new rest rules improve our lifestyles and mitigate risk. Same with the improved training and raised minimum experience levels. But, it's not as if our records are a secret to employers. I don't know if these families are pushing to be able to have any part 121 pilot's who life available to the flying public, but that wouldn't surprise me.
 
I am a little scared of doing experience enhancing things like float flying, gliders, ski planes, and tail wheels. What if I bust a ride, ground loop, or hit something under the snow? Now I have something on my record. I really enjoy flying GA. In fact I look forward to that more than my flying for my job, and I believe GA flying makes me a better professional pilot. However, if something happens during my personal flying, I'm screwed.
 
Go fly. If you bust you bust, it's what you do with it that matters.

I busted my multi-engine instrument. Didn't pose a problem.
 
I busted my PPL checkride. I felt totally screwed, but looking back regardless I probably wasn't going to pass and I now have a feeling he decided to bark me up a tree with off-the-wall questions just to save us both some time when it was obvious to him I wasn't ready. Big deal. If anyone wants to know about it, I'll tell them.

If I fail another checkride, that's on me. I can see how this would put more pressure on people, but at the end of the day, use that stress to git-r-done.
 
Busted my initial PPSEL and my PPMEL. Haven't busted a ride since and that includes my CFI, II, and MEI. I don't think a failure or two at the private level is going to hurt anyone. Most of the guys sitting across the table from you in the interview have a bust or two. They usually already know if you have busted a check ride or not before they even ask you the question. They are asking to see how you respond to it and to see if you take ownership of the failures or if you try and shirk the blame.
 
Ironically with the AQP mandate, very few people will fail a check ride in the future IMO (fingers crossed). The maneuvers part of the evaluation is now classified as training, which is where most people were failing. The second day is a LOFT, basically an everyday line flight including some lower level failures.
 
wheelsup said:
Ironically with the AQP mandate, very few people will fail a check ride in the future IMO (fingers crossed). The maneuvers part of the evaluation is now classified as training, which is where most people were failing. The second day is a LOFT, basically an everyday line flight including some lower level failures.
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I think people actually learn in AQP instead of rote memorize. Emphasizes the true meaning of training with real world events on the line.
 
There has always been an airman database in OK that held details on pass/fail checkrides.
Now employers have access to this information to make decisions on hiring candidates. I have not heard the process for an airman to refute the data in the database. Just like the fair credit reporting act provides a route to correct mistakes in the credit agency databases we MUST have a method to obtain and correct records that carries the force of law.

Anyone know if this is possible?
 
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