Pilot Hiring around 2025

jtrain609 said:
OF COURSE! Every other degree program is stupid except the one YOU completed, because you're brilliant and everyone else makes horrible decisions.

Here's that data you were asking about, it took about 15 seconds of Googling to find it: How Much Is a College Degree Worth? -- The Motley Fool
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You completely missed my point and went overboard there. :rolleyes: To give you a honest critique of my own degree, I should have done the same thing but in state at Penn State. It would have been cheaper and end result would have been pretty much the same. I don't recommend my degree to anyone unless they really, really are interested in having no life for 4 yrs and are super nerds at aviation, math, science, physics.

No, not all degree programs are stupid. You know that. There's a LOT though that are not conducive to paying off those loans because they don't get you a good job at age 22 with said degree. Given a choice, I say doing college is still a good idea and for the reasons you linked in that article. However, the OP should take caution in deciding where to go and what field to study. No point amassing 250k debt by that age! Who remembers that Swayne video where he gives a young woman a job as a FO at Mukulele and she's ecstatic because she now had a flying job and already had 250k in loan debt.

AVOID. THAT. AT. ALL. COST.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
I'm not so sure. I went 2002-2006. It's worse now.

I will say, 17-18 yr old kids should be given full information on degree outcomes in terms of numbers, graduates, job offers, etc. Colleges keep track of ALL that stuff and it is highly confidential info for them. The #1 degree choice for an 18 yr old is 'undecided.' That's just how it is when young adults don't know what they want to do for the rest of their lives (and not many people at that age do). Colleges absolutely milk this.

The reality is if colleges ever sat down and said hey here's our top 10 degrees in terms of highest numbers of jobs successfully obtained at age 22 upon graduation, they'd have to lay off 70% of the school staff because their fields/areas would be unnecessary. That's the honest truth. Far too many college degrees are useless and nothing more than a piece of paper that says you did college for 4 yrs. My degree is an exception in that it is a highly technical degree for a bachelor. One of my college roommates was undecided and with "counseling" he did a 4 yr bachelor in political science. Guess what he got at age 22 besides that piece of paper? Absolute didly squat. Luckily he knew computers (side hobby, and later took some technical course after college) and then he landed a job as an IT/network administrator kinda guy and is doing okay today.
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I've looked at Purdue. Very good aviation degree from what I have heard and you get a degree, well, from Purdue. Plus I don't want to be surrounded by aviation 24/7, which makes Purdue ideal.
 
austinrc said:
I've looked at Purdue. Very good aviation degree from what I have heard and you get a degree, well, from Purdue. Plus I don't want to be surrounded by aviation 24/7, which makes Purdue ideal.
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Keep costs in mind, I don't know much about Purdue in terms of flying costs and their education costs and what that total would be combined. For the most part, airlines don't really care what your degree is in. Get a degree in a field you are interested in and feel like would make a good back up in case you couldn't fly for the airlines.
 
Derg said:
Please keep the editorial comments off this topic. The kid needs to go to college.
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This, this, this. Please go to college, pay attention in class, get in a little trouble, and graduate on time. Speaking as someone who is in year 13 of their undergrad, have six weeks to go to graduation, and is trying to balance a harder than average full-time aviation job, family life, and the ARNG, GO TO SCHOOL WHEN IT IS EASY. IT WILL NOT BE EASIER LATER IN LIFE. Airplanes will still be around after your get your degree finished.

Enjoy your youth, enjoy the journey, and ask a lot of questions and you’ll be just fine!
 
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Finny said:
This, this, this. Please go to college, pay attention in class, get in a little trouble, and graduate on time. Speaking as someone who is in year 13 of their undergrad, have six weeks to go to graduation, and is trying to balance a harder than average full-time aviation job, family life, and the ARNG, GO TO SCHOOL WHEN IT IS EASY. IT WILL NOT BE EASIER LATER IN LIFE. Airplanes will still be around after your get your degree finished.

Enjoy your youth, enjoy the journey, and ask a lot of questions and you’ll be just fine!
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Be good.

But not TOO good.
 
austinrc said:
I've looked at Purdue. Very good aviation degree from what I have heard and you get a degree, well, from Purdue. Plus I don't want to be surrounded by aviation 24/7, which makes Purdue ideal.
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A big question for Purdue would be whether you can get instate tuition or not. I think it's an extra 10k a semester if you're out of state and 80k can buy you lots of nice things, especially when you factor on the interest side of things. If you come from wealth or have money saved up I'd recommend working towards your private as soon as you're able to after school and on weekends as you can get your license at 17 and your student certificate at 16.

If you can get In-state tuition at Purdue that's a different story and they'd be a good option. I just haven't seen how much the lab fees for the commercial cover as far as flight time and if you need to build more hours for additional money at some point.

If you're out of state and feel comfortable sharing where you're from the members here might have some suggestions and recommendations as far as schools, flight schools and the like.
 
srn121 said:
A big question for Purdue would be whether you can get instate tuition or not. I think it's an extra 10k a semester if you're out of state and 80k can buy you lots of nice things, especially when you factor on the interest side of things. If you come from wealth or have money saved up I'd recommend working towards your private as soon as you're able to after school and on weekends as you can get your license at 17 and your student certificate at 16.

If you can get In-state tuition at Purdue that's a different story and they'd be a good option. I just haven't seen how much the lab fees for the commercial cover as far as flight time and if you need to build more hours for additional money at some point.

If you're out of state and feel comfortable sharing where you're from the members here might have some suggestions and recommendations as far as schools, flight schools and the like.
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Live in Wichita, Kansas. Have GI bill full benefits from my Dad, (retired AF).
 
Finny said:
Can’t go wrong with the Big Ten either!
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yes you can

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austinrc said:
Live in Wichita, Kansas. Have GI bill full benefits from my Dad, (retired AF).
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In that case, if I were you I’d look into Kansas State. Four year degree and all the ratings, approved by the VA as well. If the Purdue program is covered as well then that is a great option, I’m pretty sure the GI bill covers tuition whether your in-state or out of state. The GI Bill was good for me, I only used it on a two year degree though, so don’t do that :D
 
austinrc said:
Live in Wichita, Kansas. Have GI bill full benefits from my Dad, (retired AF).
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I was going to mention it last night, but it seems Podrick beat me to it. Norman's a very cool town and you could still visit your folks and maybe even meet them for your solo cross countries. I believe Oklahoma State has a flight program too and I've heard Stillwater's a lot of fun, plus I think it's even closer to home.
 
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