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Well the initial plan they were talking about was for 25 furloughs. So let's say roughly 4 pilots per aircraft, essentially that translates to 44 pilots. So I'd say if you are over the bottom 50 you are safe.
 
RightSeatGirl said:
Well the initial plan they were talking about was for 25 furloughs. So let's say roughly 4 pilots per aircraft, essentially that translates to 44 pilots. So I'd say if you are over the bottom 50 you are safe.
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They'll try for more than 4 per aircraft.

I have a buddy who is 80 from the bottom and he thinks for sure the furlough letter is coming to him.

Sorry to those affected. This stinks
 
I meant 4 crews..sorry, typo. So that's 44 pilots. We were originally gonna loose just four a/c and furlough 25 which is roughly 4 crew per aircraft. So I think 80 is certainly possible, but not probable. I think it will be around 50 personally. Could go either way..

One thing is certain, we'll see some base closures. ROA as a maintenance base may be going as well. With 11 less aircraft we don't need three maintenance bases. ROA has no maint. control and has a hanger that is on a month to month lease. ROA as a crew base will likely survive, but I think we can kiss EWN and CHO goodbye.

Personally, I think all the signs are pointing at a merger with PSA. The comment debunking that on Ask Piedmont was a pretty weak argument. One thing that could change all of this though would be a MESA shutdown.
 
HOPEFULLY they only furlough 4 per plane but we are listed at 8.7 per plane. Hopefully we keep as many as we can on and run not so lean a ship. otherwise it will be 07' all over again. ... no open time the second the first hits the street.
 
Thankfully, my little tooshie is safe, but I could potentially end up back on reserve if they furlough the full 90. I hate that the more jr. guys will be on the street. A lot of them, some very cool people too, never flew much and got hired in really low time. In the current industry climate they essentially have no hope of working as a pilot which really sucks. A few might land something, but most will have to find work in another industry until things turn around. This is just horrible news..the more I think about it the more I need to get up, grab a beer, and raise one to my jr. homys...
 
granlistillo said:
Dry storage??
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Yes! Thats where I was going. Out here, many "back to leesor" aircraft end up on the back forty. Some for storage, some for the breaker's torch, as many 747-200/300s, 757-200s, DC-9s, DC-10s, and a single L-1011 are doing now.
 
RightSeatGirl said:
Thankfully, my little tooshie is safe, but I could potentially end up back on reserve if they furlough the full 90. I hate that the more jr. guys will be on the street. A lot of them, some very cool people too, never flew much and got hired in really low time. In the current industry climate they essentially have no hope of working as a pilot which really sucks. A few might land something, but most will have to find work in another industry until things turn around. This is just horrible news..the more I think about it the more I need to get up, grab a beer, and raise one to my jr. homys...
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Sorry to ask, but are you the Piedmont FO that had an article done on them?

I remember reading something somewhere in some publication (sorry for all the somes, haha) about a female FO.

Could be wrong, if so carry on!
 
RightSeatGirl said:
Thankfully, my little tooshie is safe, but I could potentially end up back on reserve if they furlough the full 90. I hate that the more jr. guys will be on the street. A lot of them, some very cool people too, never flew much and got hired in really low time. In the current industry climate they essentially have no hope of working as a pilot which really sucks. A few might land something, but most will have to find work in another industry until things turn around. This is just horrible news..the more I think about it the more I need to get up, grab a beer, and raise one to my jr. homys...
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Just out of curiosity why would they merge PDT and PSA? You would have the costs of administering the combo plus training dispatchers, etc. to merge two airlines, one of whom is having their fleet phased out anyway. Plus if you merge the certificates and work groups you lose the ability to whipsaw them against each other.
 
N826AW said:
Just out of curiosity why would they merge PDT and PSA? You would have the costs of administering the combo plus training dispatchers, etc. to merge two airlines, one of whom is having their fleet phased out anyway. Plus if you merge the certificates and work groups you lose the ability to whipsaw them against each other.
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The whipsaw factor is history..we are co-writing our contracts to prevent exactly that. And why would we need to train dispatchers. Both groups already have plenty.
 
MattB said:
HOPEFULLY they only furlough 4 per plane but we are listed at 8.7 per plane. Hopefully we keep as many as we can on and run not so lean a ship. otherwise it will be 07' all over again. ... no open time the second the first hits the street.
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8.7 crews per plane? That's a lot of pilots.
 
N826AW said:
Just out of curiosity why would they merge PDT and PSA? You would have the costs of administering the combo plus training dispatchers, etc. to merge two airlines, one of whom is having their fleet phased out anyway. Plus if you merge the certificates and work groups you lose the ability to whipsaw them against each other.
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Interesting concept, I have heard some guys at PSA opine that there will be a PSA Piedmont merger. Not too sure merger is the right word, as the two are fully owned subsidiaries of Airways. As far as a "Merger" would go, LCC can do many things with a flick of a pen.

As far as integrating the certificates and the seniority lists that is another issue. I don't see where that would interest LCC, but I haven't thought too much about it.

Closer "integration" could happen and may make business sense. But with PSA guys furloughed and Piedmont getting ready to furlough the seniority list integration would be interesting,no?
 
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