I may have an opportunity to fly SIC on DC-8's within the next 2 months. My question is whether PIC time in a King Air 90(which I will be flying within two months) is better than SIC in a DC-8. And when I say better, I mean in the hopes of future employment at a major freight operation on the trunks. Believe it or not the money is better in the King Air.... but all the minor details aside... please help!
PIC or SIC, which one is better?
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kellwolf
Piece of Trash
IMO it boils down to what your ultimate goal is. The King Air is turbine PIC where the DC-8 is turbine SIC. Some airlines would prefer the turbine PIC, even though it's not a jet. Not sure about freight companies, but if you're looking to get on with a company that flies DC-8s, then that might be a way to go. I'm sure they would love to have an appicant with actual experience in that a/c. Now if you were looking to go airlines such a SWA or JetBlue, I'd stick with the King Air.
stuckingfk
Well-Known Member
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I may have an opportunity to fly SIC on DC-8's within the next 2 months. My question is whether PIC time in a King Air 90(which I will be flying within two months) is better than SIC in a DC-8. And when I say better, I mean in the hopes of future employment at a major freight operation on the trunks. Believe it or not the money is better in the King Air.... but all the minor details aside... please help!
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IMO, hands down, the King Air PIC time.
I may have an opportunity to fly SIC on DC-8's within the next 2 months. My question is whether PIC time in a King Air 90(which I will be flying within two months) is better than SIC in a DC-8. And when I say better, I mean in the hopes of future employment at a major freight operation on the trunks. Believe it or not the money is better in the King Air.... but all the minor details aside... please help!
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IMO, hands down, the King Air PIC time.
adreamer
Well-Known Member
Well, so let me get this straight. Airline is not looking for your total time, but also looking into what kind of time you have. Based on what I read so far, regardless with total time, heavy jet PIC / SIC(single or multi) is #1, then
2. Turbine PIC / SIC (single or multi)
3. Multi engine time.
am I right?
adreamer
2. Turbine PIC / SIC (single or multi)
3. Multi engine time.
am I right?
adreamer
Bandit_Driver
Gold Member
Have to agree with Kellwolf on this one. It all depends on where you want to go.
A300Capt
Freight Dawg
Normally, I'd say go for the PIC time. However, airlines look for PIC time in aircraft above 20,000lbs. I don't believe the king Air fits in that category. Plus, they like backgrounds in scheduled 121 or 135 ops. In this case I'd go for the SIC time in the DC-8. Heavy jet time is a plus. Besides, when are you ever going to get the chance to fly a DC-8 again?
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Normally, I'd say go for the PIC time. However, airlines look for PIC time in aircraft above 20,000lbs. I don't believe the king Air fits in that category. Plus, they like backgrounds in scheduled 121 or 135 ops. In this case I'd go for the SIC time in the DC-8. Heavy jet time is a plus. Besides, when are you ever going to get the chance to fly a DC-8 again?
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Agree very much, especially with the last part. There's a gig opening up in about a year to fly F-4s here in NM, and it looks interesting. Same thing, when is one ever going to get a chance to do that again?
Normally, I'd say go for the PIC time. However, airlines look for PIC time in aircraft above 20,000lbs. I don't believe the king Air fits in that category. Plus, they like backgrounds in scheduled 121 or 135 ops. In this case I'd go for the SIC time in the DC-8. Heavy jet time is a plus. Besides, when are you ever going to get the chance to fly a DC-8 again?
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Agree very much, especially with the last part. There's a gig opening up in about a year to fly F-4s here in NM, and it looks interesting. Same thing, when is one ever going to get a chance to do that again?
I_Money
Moderator
I think there is some confusion. The way I look at it, the reason people are saying turbine PIC, is that is what is needed to get to take the step up to airliners, IMHO if you are flying a DC-8 are already at that step. That environment is much closer to what you will be doing for other airlines; therefore it is more relevant experience.
I'm really leaning towards the DC-8 for the reason that it IS an airline(although a small one). The reason that I asked for everyone's advice is because I still have relatively low time (around a 1000) and my concern is that it will be a VERY long time getting another 1000 on top of that. A typical F/o at this company flies anywhere from 300 to 600 hrs a year. Really it boils down to wanting to move and all that good stuff... the DC-8 would be an awesome addition to the old logbook.
An F-4 job?! sign me up!
An F-4 job?! sign me up!
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Guest
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What airline is the DC-8 gig for? (IF you don't mind).
Would you be moving from South FL?
Would you be moving from South FL?
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
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I'm really leaning towards the DC-8 for the reason that it IS an airline(although a small one)
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When ya put it that way...... and a good point was made that rings very true. You never know when you might get the chance to fly one. If some guy offered me a job flying a DC-3, I'd probably drop a King Air job to take it just 'cause I like that airplane. And that's not even turbine.
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The reason that I asked for everyone's advice is because I still have relatively low time (around a 1000) and my concern is that it will be a VERY long time getting another 1000 on top of that.
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Carefuly. There are some on this board that think that if you have under 1000 hours, you shouldn't be in the left seat of an airliner.........
I'm really leaning towards the DC-8 for the reason that it IS an airline(although a small one)
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When ya put it that way...... and a good point was made that rings very true. You never know when you might get the chance to fly one. If some guy offered me a job flying a DC-3, I'd probably drop a King Air job to take it just 'cause I like that airplane. And that's not even turbine.
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The reason that I asked for everyone's advice is because I still have relatively low time (around a 1000) and my concern is that it will be a VERY long time getting another 1000 on top of that.
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Carefuly. There are some on this board that think that if you have under 1000 hours, you shouldn't be in the left seat of an airliner.........
Mr_Creepy
Well-Known Member
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"There are some on this board that think that if you have under 1000 hours, you shouldn't be in the left seat of an airliner........."
Ah...don't worry Kell...it's only the airline pilots that think that.
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Kell did you mean RIGHT seat? There better not be anyone in the left seat with less than 1000 hrs!
ATP mins are 1500 bro ....
Not to mention the standard airline insurance policy wants 2500 for captains.
"There are some on this board that think that if you have under 1000 hours, you shouldn't be in the left seat of an airliner........."
Ah...don't worry Kell...it's only the airline pilots that think that.
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Kell did you mean RIGHT seat? There better not be anyone in the left seat with less than 1000 hrs!
ATP mins are 1500 bro ....
Not to mention the standard airline insurance policy wants 2500 for captains.
Cleared_ILS_RWY_9L
New Member
I'd pick the DC-8, hands down. The people that will get to know you while you are in training might be the people that get you "conected" to a more long term job. Most of the Chief Pilots and DO's from different airlines know each other, and I've heard of more than one case of a recently laid-off pilot getting hired by another airline by word of mouth, rather than any resume. I got laid off on a Tuesday, and the next day the phone rang, asking if I were available to do some sim work on Thursday.......completely out of the blue. The DO of the company that canned me called a friend of his.
It's a very small world.
It's a very small world.