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[Nick]

Seriously...waiting on the ground for 375 minutes to depart is crazy. But hey, more money for the pilots, right? That is until they exceed their duty time (which a few JetBlue crews did this evening).

Sometimes it gets out of whack though. It says 375 minutes but I doubt many planes really waited 6 hours 15 minutes from gate to takeoff. It is entirely possible though. It just gets goofy sometimes when the delays get real bad.

 

[coa787]

Sometimes it gets out of whack though. It says 375 minutes but I doubt many planes really waited 6 hours 15 minutes from gate to takeoff. It is entirely possible though. It just gets goofy sometimes when the delays get real bad.

I don't think that they had time to wait that long. For the JetBlue guys, it was three hours and then game over.

 

[BobDDuck]

did you type this from the left seat sitting on the ramp? Ahh, the world of wireless.

Yes. We got in just ahead of the storm (something about not shooting approaching into an approaching thunderstorm?) and then they shut down the ramp just as we got to the gate so we sat for another 40 minutes waiting to get waved in. We were due back out in 20 minutes but I told the gate agent we weren't going to board until they started moving airplanes again. I'm all for going out and sitting and making money, but there's no reason to push it too much. As when we finally left about 25 minutes after our departure time it took 50 minutes to get to the runway, which for PHL really isn't too bad.

Seriously...waiting on the ground for 375 minutes to depart is crazy.

Those times aren't always from the OUT to OFF times. That includes flight that are delayed for departure from the gate.

 

[granlistillo]

Sounds familiar...
2 weeks ago we slithered our way down SA about number 20. When we were four we were told to taxi clear for a DCA ground stop and used my motorola q phone for a play by play on the slow moving T storms coming into DCA. Helped the captain decide to taxi back first chance we got at a gate, and the flight was then cancelled. The repo flight only had to wait 40 mins on S to get out.

 

[Vector4Food]

The night of that Kennedy holdups, I talked to a Delta crew who said they were 9 hours delayed.

We had a flush of New York departures around 4 in the morning.... made for a fun midnight shift.

 

[Cruise]

Yeah, I got caught too. Sat in PVD for 8 hours waiting for an EDC time to LGA. Well, we got the EDC; however, we'd timed out by then. Repo to our overnight and now playing the hotel appreciation sit in LEB for the show tonight. Good fun!

Those were some nasty storms rolling through the NE last night. We actually lost all power at PVD temporarily until the generators kicked online.

 

[Orange Anchor]

Anybody else sitting in the parking lot that PHL has become? We were the third to last arrival to make it in and at least made it just short of the gate before the ramp closed. S and SA were full when we landed and 35 is shut down and full of planes.

PHL has and always will be a terrible place for an airport.. it lies under the arrivals for New York, it has incredible storms in the summer closing departure/arrival gates, in the spring and fall it has fog so thick it is a routine thing to do Cat II/III and in the winter the snow storms are huge. Add to that the terrible layout of the airport which requires crossing runways AND the attitude of a lot of the people who work at PHL and you get a very dysfunctional operation. The reality is one has to wonder how anything does get done at PHL.

My longest was about 4hrs trying to get airborne due to wx. And then too, I remember doing the box step shuffle and having the airport in sight.. and landing about :35 minutes later. Approach did not find it funny when I asked for the EWR altimeter after he had been driving us north for :10 minutes. :laff:

 

[Nick]

My favorite quote from Newark flow yesterday afternoon was:

"BIGGY's been dead for hours."