Phenom 300

Jimmy_Norton

Jimmy_Norton

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Anyone on here drive a Phenom 300? What are your thoughts? How has the reliability and tech support been? I heard there have been some issues with the durability of the cabin furnishings, any truth to that?
 
Would 100 experience suffice? Not much experience with the furnishings since it's cargo. From what I've heard the 100 and 300 is night and day with performance.
 
You must fly for Quest. Have they been reliable for you guys? I'd imagine you put more hours on it than the average 91 operator.
 
They are a reliable aircraft. Embraer is still working on fixes here and there for the electrical gremlins that show up every once and awhile. The acronym for Embrear is Every Mechanical Breakdown Requires An Electrical Reset. It is their first lineup of bizjets and any cleansheet aircraft has growing pains during the first few years. With as many hours as we have put on them our dispatch reliability is very good. I don't know the exact percentage, but I'd place it at close to 99%. That's pretty good in the first year full year of service. Like I said the 300 is a completly different animal than the 100. It is a true bizjet instead of geared towards owner flown. Single point refueling, external lav service, rear seats can recline!, 450kts and the list goes on from there. As for the furnishings I can't attest to the durability except for the front cabinet. It seems a little too IKEA like for me, but gets the job done. Embraer has done something that others should follow. Take the airline mentality to the bizjet market. These aircraft are friendly with MX. If you do have a problem you download the records onto an SD card and email a service center and they will diagnose the problem for you. Once the problem is found usually the fix is simple. There is easy access to most items. I've been told it only takes half a day to swap an engine. Hope this helps.
 
All I can say is that Flight Options seems to love them. Same as Jetsuite with the 100's. The only problem I had heard about the furnishing were that the arm rest tilted with the seat back for some reason.
 
ackeight said:
They are a reliable aircraft. Embraer is still working on fixes here and there for the electrical gremlins that show up every once and awhile. The acronym for Embrear is Every Mechanical Breakdown Requires An Electrical Reset. It is their first lineup of bizjets and any cleansheet aircraft has growing pains during the first few years. With as many hours as we have put on them our dispatch reliability is very good. I don't know the exact percentage, but I'd place it at close to 99%. That's pretty good in the first year full year of service. Like I said the 300 is a completly different animal than the 100. It is a true bizjet instead of geared towards owner flown. Single point refueling, external lav service, rear seats can recline!, 450kts and the list goes on from there. As for the furnishings I can't attest to the durability except for the front cabinet. It seems a little too IKEA like for me, but gets the job done. Embraer has done something that others should follow. Take the airline mentality to the bizjet market. These aircraft are friendly with MX. If you do have a problem you download the records onto an SD card and email a service center and they will diagnose the problem for you. Once the problem is found usually the fix is simple. There is easy access to most items. I've been told it only takes half a day to swap an engine. Hope this helps.
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So you guys have no seats or anything in the back?

Any way you could take a picture?

I just think it's weird that a freight operator is flying a brand new whiz bang G1000 biz jet to put pee in the back of it. No hate here, but I've always thought of freight operators as having clapped out everything.
 
N519AT said:
So you guys have no seats or anything in the back?

Any way you could take a picture?

I just think it's weird that a freight operator is flying a brand new whiz bang G1000 biz jet to put pee in the back of it. No hate here, but I've always thought of freight operators as having clapped out everything.
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They've got PC-12's too.

And they're not a freight operator, that'd make them a part 135 company. No no no, this is part 91, as the crap...erm...pee, being moved is all owned by the company.

TECHNICALLY it's a giant corporate flight department.
 
jtrain609 said:
They've got PC-12's too.

And they're not a freight operator, that'd make them a part 135 company. No no no, this is part 91, as the crap...erm...pee, being moved is all owned by the company.

TECHNICALLY it's a giant corporate flight department.
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Yeah I know they've got PC12s and they're not the first to haul freight in those, but they have to be the only ones moving freight (pee!) in Phenoms.

Meh, I guess the term freight operator wasn't right for this company. That does kind of imply 135 I guess.

Intra-company freight by air?
 
Be-58's, TBM-700s, PC-12s, one eclipse, and Phenoms. One giant happy pt 91 flight dept. ;) Seats are still in there, but everything is in plastic wrap until we get approval to remove them from mr. government. They were never intended to fly without seats so jumping through hoops is necessary.
 
ackeight said:
Be-58's, TBM-700s, PC-12s, one eclipse, and Phenoms. One giant happy pt 91 flight dept. ;) Seats are still in there, but everything is in plastic wrap until we get approval to remove them from mr. government. They were never intended to fly without seats so jumping through hoops is necessary.
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I thought you guys flew MU-2's
 
staledog said:
I thought you guys flew MU-2's
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Only men with hair on your chest flew the MU-2's right? Thank god we got rid of those and now we are flying phenoms. Funny thing, 208 is grounded tonight. I guess that's what I get for saying they are reliable. I think it has to do something with us putting the pitot tube covers and static plugs in them now.
 
ackeight said:
Only men with hair on your chest flew the MU-2's right? Thank god we got rid of those and now we are flying phenoms. Funny thing, 208 is grounded tonight. I guess that's what I get for saying they are reliable. I think it has to do something with us putting the pitot tube covers and static plugs in them now.
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Do you roll through IAD?
 
ackeight said:
Only men with hair on your chest flew the MU-2's right? Thank god we got rid of those and now we are flying phenoms. Funny thing, 208 is grounded tonight. I guess that's what I get for saying they are reliable. I think it has to do something with us putting the pitot tube covers and static plugs in them now.
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BTW, Do you guys fly single pilot on the 300's? Single Pilot on everything?
 
ackeight said:
They are a reliable aircraft. Embraer is still working on fixes here and there for the electrical gremlins that show up every once and awhile. The acronym for Embrear is Every Mechanical Breakdown Requires An Electrical Reset. It is their first lineup of bizjets and any cleansheet aircraft has growing pains during the first few years. With as many hours as we have put on them our dispatch reliability is very good. I don't know the exact percentage, but I'd place it at close to 99%. That's pretty good in the first year full year of service. Like I said the 300 is a completly different animal than the 100. It is a true bizjet instead of geared towards owner flown. Single point refueling, external lav service, rear seats can recline!, 450kts and the list goes on from there. As for the furnishings I can't attest to the durability except for the front cabinet. It seems a little too IKEA like for me, but gets the job done. Embraer has done something that others should follow. Take the airline mentality to the bizjet market. These aircraft are friendly with MX. If you do have a problem you download the records onto an SD card and email a service center and they will diagnose the problem for you. Once the problem is found usually the fix is simple. There is easy access to most items. I've been told it only takes half a day to swap an engine. Hope this helps.
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Do we fly for the same company??? If I could only keep count of the times that plane has some kind of an electrical issue... You're sooo optimistic!
 
Ive got a couple hundred hours in the 300. Great airplane. Still some wrinkles to iron out, but solid overall. Interior is crap, even though they tout it being designed by bmw, it must have been built by kia.

Much better than the 100, which is a piece of junk. Ive got 600 hous in that and if i never flew it again, it would be too soon. And i probably never will again.
 
ricecakecm said:
Ive got a couple hundred hours in the 300. Great airplane. Still some wrinkles to iron out, but solid overall. Interior is crap, even though they tout it being designed by bmw, it must have been built by kia.

Much better than the 100, which is a piece of junk. Ive got 600 hous in that and if i never flew it again, it would be too soon. And i probably never will again.
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Well although I know the 300 is a lot more airplane than a 100, I definitely wouldn't call it a piece of junk. If you think that, then I'd like to know what airplanes you've flown in your career. And I'm not just saying this because I fly a 100, I'm saying this because I've flown JUNK and plenty of it. Everything from Queen Airs to MU-2's up to and including old Beechjet's and Lears. The Phenom is nicer to fly than any of them. Not as fast and not as large, but very nice to fly.

With the added power, payload, and range, the 300 sounds just about perfect.
 
My head exploded when you said MU-2s were "junk". I'm going to throw this computer out the window.

To be fair, the BeechJunk is, well, junk.
 
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