Phenom 100 crash in MD

So let me ask an arguably dumb question here....

You crash an airplane and walk away. NTSB/FAA does their investigation and says, "this was your fault."

What happens? You apparently don't lose your license, or you lose it temporarily, or you have to go through remedial training or SOMETHING punitive, right? Because the PIC is responsible and you already crashed one airplane, and you were found responsible, so it's on you.

I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around this, but I realize the cognitive dissonance isn't rational. You don't lose your driver's license for totalling your car and walking away, so why should he not be allowed to fly? Yet, there's a part of me wondering - and AGAIN, I know this is an irrational, emotionally-driven thing - how the hell he was signed off for a much-higher performance airplane?

Anyway. The question stands: what punitive measures (if any) does the FAA assess on pilots who wad up their airplanes?
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
So rich owner tries to follow a C172 to the runway by.......... Flying his Phenom jet like a C172.

As I stated, stall/spin accident into the ground by a pilot in over his head with a sophisticated light jet while operating as single pilot. His previous crash doesn't bode well either.
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I for one can't understand one pilot taking joy in another pilots accident yet alone their death.
 
killbilly said:
You crash an airplane and walk away. NTSB/FAA does their investigation and says, "this was your fault.".... Anyway. The question stands: what punitive measures (if any) does the FAA assess on pilots who wad up their airplanes?
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In 1977 I totaled an airplane, 5 sob, no one hurt. Got a big pat on the back from both the FAA and the insurance company. A totaled aircraft isn't always the pilots fault.
 
fholbert said:
I for one can't understand one pilot taking joy in another pilots accident yet alone their death.
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No joy taken. I'm sad over all lives lost, but especially the three on the ground.

tomokc said:
What does the dead pilot's net worth have to do with this?
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Because the net worth individual is the one who owns the jet. And when these high performance accidents happen in a single pilot operation, it's typically rich ones. In many cases, they are in over their heads. It's like the Bonanza doctor killer nomenclature from years back.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Because the net worth individual is the one who owns the jet. And when these high performance accidents happen in a single pilot operation, it's typically rich ones. In many cases, they are in over their heads. It's like the Bonanza doctor killer nomenclature from years back.
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I would like you to find a few more accidents that back that claim up. Not "a rich guy crashed his Cirrus," but an owner crashing the jet that he type rated in.
 
SrFnFly227 said:
I would like you to find a few more accidents that back that claim up. Not "a rich guy crashed his Cirrus," but an owner crashing the jet that he type rated in.
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Not jets, but there have been some very ugly owner flown T-prop singles accidents lately...
 
The airport does have a lot of training going on, (there were 3 local flight school planes in the air when the accident happened) which I am sure can make landing a jet there interesting. I know I have had my fair share of annoyances with them. My experience there is that the trainers try to be accommodating to faster traffic and some of us will go out of our way to give them priority if we can. It was a VFR day, with a higher overcast. I wonder what made him slow so much? Was he trying to give spacing with the Cessna? Did he slow the aircraft for approach too much and never advanced the throttle? With the recent mid-air up at FDK and now this closer in, the area is buzzing about dangerous pilots and planes. Not only is it a major tragedy for all of those involved, but also for the pilot community as it looks bad on us.
 
fholbert said:
In 1977 I totaled an airplane, 5 sob, no one hurt. Got a big pat on the back from both the FAA and the insurance company. A totaled aircraft isn't always the pilots fault.
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Christ, that must have been scary.

I didn't say the prior crash was his fault - the NTSB and the FAA said it was his fault. I also think I was crystal clear about the rationale - when it's the pilot's fault, what's the process?

Your situation, however scary and admirably handled, is not applicable, given that you were not at fault.

EDIT - I'm wondering if you only read the last line of my post. Pay special attention to the second line. I wasn't calling you (or anyone who totaled a plane) out. I'm asking what the FAA/NTSB does when a pilot is at fault. "Totaled" is contextual, only.
 
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