PeopleScrewed for the last time.

TXaviator said:
hey dugie i appreciate your all knowing wisdom but you dont have the foggiest clue what my situation with flying time is or isnt so how about a glass of shut the f.uck up??

yes OU is a 141 school, and yes my coursework and flying time /ratings here will transfer just fine. i spoke with OU on the phone today. thanks for your concern.
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I know you don't like hearing something that goes against your current idea, ............but Dugie has a good job, getting paid to fly airplanes. I think that is more than you can say right now! Listen to first-hand experience, even if he does offer it up to you like a true pr!ck.
 
TXaviator said:
a) stafford loans barely cover my in-state tuition. period. the government does not offer me subsidized loans either.

mistake #1, why are you not a ND resident by now?

b) i would gladly pay my bills, IF THE UNIVERSITY WOULD ALERT ME TO THESE DEBTS WHEN THEY ARE INCURRED.

Are you kidding? You don't know that tuition, fees, etc are all charged at the beginning of the semester? Step away from any airplane in your future, PLEASE!

the university today informed me "this charge was incurred in january. you were notified by email, as we do not send paper billing statements anymore."

So you didn't get a bill from known costs (tuition) and what, you thought this year was free? If a credit card bill doesn't show up do you just let it ride and hope for the best?

okay well maybe im out on a limb here, but i think youd be with me when i say that if i am being asked to pay thousands of dollars, i expect to see it in writing in a paper bill. i had no previous idea that they had done away with paper billing. i was told "we notified you by email that we would no longer have paper billing".... okay, if i had no previous reason to look at my junk university email account, how would i otherwise find out this information?????

As stated above, a big bill you know is coming doesn't show up and you don't put forth any effort to find out why. The campus isn't that big and there is this new device called a TELEPHONE!

thats my issue, the real lack of communication with the university, not the dollar value of the charge.

other reasons i am considering moving include but are not limited to

-climate. cold is one thing, life-threatening cold and a majority of weather that is unsuitable for flying is something else.

Yup and tornados are a walk in the park, after all, all you have to do is find some leather straps and a well pipe and you can survive an F5 :sarcasm:

-cost of living/housing/wages. my research on the internet indicates that oklahoma city is roughly 10% cheaper to live in than grand forks north dakota. i find the wages to costs here in grand forks to be non-conducive to a working student trying to pay their own way.

Dorms are cheap, you chose not to live there, UND didn't force you out. Can't pay the bills, don't have the party.

-lifestyle/setting. i am not a small town person. OKC is a city of 600,000. thats much more to my liking and will greatly enhance my overall quality of life. (subjective, but valid in my opinion)

You knew GFK was small town ND coming here, you are just now coming to the conclusion that you don't like small towns. Forgive me, but your situational awareness and decision making skills are severly lacking.
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Man, do you take responsiblity of anything, or is it always someone elses fault?

All of your ratings will transfer, no doubt, that is a FAA rating not a UND rating, BUT your flight time (the 195 or so hours needed to graduate a 141 program with a commercial rating) will only transfer as half, thats a 141 reg. So if you have 100 hours of UND time, only 50 hours will transfer to OU towards your 195. I'm sure OU will tell you that on your first day. See 141.77
 
eglplt said:
I know you don't like hearing something that goes against your current idea, ............but Dugie has a good job, getting paid to fly airplanes. I think that is more than you can say right now! Listen to first-hand experience, even if he does offer it up to you like a true pr!ck.
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HEY, I resemble that remark. Do you tell your little guy nicely to not ride his big wheel down the stairs or do you get all up in his business?
 
eglplt said:
Isn't LRD's identifier MLRD, or does that still depend on what W can con the congress into?
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Well, that all depends on which runway is in use and the distance you go on the missed :sitaware:
 
It would be nice if you guys would, at the very least, clean up the language a little.

Remember, no messing the carpet in Doug's living room.
 
so that $800 that you're going to leave because of is like what...1% of what it costs for 4 years of tuition and the flight costs?
 
dugie seriously, you need a remedial reading comprehension course.

a) "in-state" means i am you know, IN the STATE... ie - resident. my stafford loans do not cover RESIDENT (in-state) tuition.

b) yes dugie i know i get charged at the beginning of the semester. i also know that when the university sends me the remainder of my private loans, minus an amount they state is my tuition and fees, that i should in theory be paid up. do you agree?

what occurred is UND assessed a charge AFTER my private loans had been used to pay the tuition and fees, and i was not alerted to additional charges.

UND told me that, okay, here is what is in excess of your fees this semester, and gave me a check. then added an additional charge later with no notification. you following me yet?

c) weather - F5's dont come crashing through on a regular basis. bitterly cold winter does. nice straw man though.

d) i never lived in any dormitory at UND so i have no idea what their cost is or the relevence of such. i make my living arrangement as efficient as possible - ie, roommates, shared bills, shared vehicle expenses, etc.

e) Man, do you always think you're the hottest •, or is it just that everyone else is not as perfect as you?


Screaming_Emu - you should probably sign up for that reading comprehension course with Dugie.
 
TXaviator said:
dugie seriously, you need a remedial reading comprehension course.

a) "in-state" means i am you know, IN the STATE... ie - resident. my stafford loans do not cover RESIDENT (in-state) tuition.

what year are you? Stafford loan maximums go up per year or credits completed, I paid my way through using stafford and pell grants, tuition hasn't risen that much. Besides you went to school in TX so you should be able to get the higher capped out stafford loans, 10.5K per year I think. My apologies I misread the "instate" as out of state tuition, even so, instate is what 1500 bucks a semester now? Why can't you get subsidized staffords?

b) yes dugie i know i get charged at the beginning of the semester. i also know that when the university sends me the remainder of my private loans, minus an amount they state is my tuition and fees, that i should in theory be paid up. do you agree?

what occurred is UND assessed a charge AFTER my private loans had been used to pay the tuition and fees, and i was not alerted to additional charges.
what was the charge?

UND told me that, okay, here is what is in excess of your fees this semester, and gave me a check. then added an additional charge later with no notification. you following me yet?

c) weather - F5's dont come crashing through on a regular basis. bitterly cold winter does. nice straw man though.
and you didnt know this coming to ND?

d) i never lived in any dormitory at UND so i have no idea what their cost is or the relevence of such. i make my living arrangement as efficient as possible - ie, roommates, shared bills, shared vehicle expenses, etc.

Dorms are cheaper than apartments, no utilities, food plan etc.

e) Man, do you always think you're the hottest •, or is it just that everyone else is not as perfect as you?

Pretty much hot poopoo, been around the block a couple of times. Sounds like you aren't playing the financial aid game very well. There are plenty of grants, loans, scholarships out there. But you are willing to pay even more to go to OU, where you will have out of state tuition, doubleing of your flight time, etc all to escape two months of actual cold weather. More power to you, remember to not let the door hit you in the keester on the way out.


Screaming_Emu - you should probably sign up for that reading comprehension course with Dugie.
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Grow up, take responsibility for your decsions, you said yourself you never looked at UND dorms, how about student housing? Or is it more fun to have your own apartment, but not willing to pay the cost?

Answer the $800 question, what was this additional charge, it came from something you did, or is UND picking on you and charging you extra because you are from TX, probably not a bad idea.

http://www.staffordloan.com/stafford-loan-info/undergraduate-stafford-loan.php

Make sure you are an "independant" student, ie get off your parents income tax returns
 
Dugie8 said:
Grow up, take responsibility for your decsions, you said yourself you never looked at UND dorms, how about student housing? Or is it more fun to have your own apartment, but not willing to pay the cost?

Answer the $800 question, what was this additional charge, it came from something you did, or is UND picking on you and charging you extra because you are from TX, probably not a bad idea.
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jesus h christ. now youve gone off on a red herring fallacy as well. "taking responsibility" for my housing choice is not the topic being discussed.

hell, chew on this, ill throw you a bone even

from: http://www.housing.und.edu/reshalls/rates.shtml

9 months in a residence hall costs 2560, or 284 per month.

currently i pay 280 a month, have my own room, backyard, garage, amenitites, etc.

id say thats a fairly smart decision, do you disagree? so STFU.

as for the 800$ charge, it was describe to me as "tuition and fees". the business office would not elaborate further when i asked WTF it was for and why it was not assessed at the time all my other charges were made and payed for.

got any other brilliant tid bits for me?
 
Dugie8 said:
http://www.staffordloan.com/stafford-loan-info/undergraduate-stafford-loan.php

Make sure you are an "independant" student, ie get off your parents income tax returns
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think again wise one. i havent been on my parents returns since i was 18. i do not recieve financial support from them, monetary, insurance, or otherwise.

i appealed UND's decision to label me as DEPENDENT on three occassions, providing written documentation, tax returns, the whole nine yards, and according to UND "parents decision not to aide the student, does not constitute independence"

it is UND's position that I must be 24 years of age, married, or have served in the armed forces to be independent. period.

OU however takes a more understanding position and allows those who recieve less than 50% of their income from their parents, and are not claimed as dependents on their tax returns, to be considered INDEPENDENT for government loans.

UND is fu.cking me in that regard.
 
TXaviator said:
jesus h christ. now youve gone off on a red herring fallacy as well. "taking responsibility" for my housing choice is not the topic being discussed.


hell, chew on this, ill throw you a bone even

from: http://www.housing.und.edu/reshalls/rates.shtml

9 months in a residence hall costs 2560, or 284 per month.

currently i pay 280 a month, have my own room, backyard, garage, amenitites, etc.

Plus utilities, groceries, etc, still cheaper to live in the dorms, just not as "cool"

id say thats a fairly smart decision, do you disagree? so STFU.

Yup I disagree, so you STFU, see I can make internet tough guy remarks too.

as for the 800$ charge, it was describe to me as "tuition and fees". the business office would not elaborate further when i asked WTF it was for and why it was not assessed at the time all my other charges were made and payed for.

So you went to the business office with $800 bill in hand and asked what it was for and the business told to bugger off? I doubt it, but lets take your word for it. We are back to UND picking on you, again the smell of "it is never my fault and always someone elses".



got any other brilliant tid bits for me?

Do us all a favor, do not reproduce, the world has enough free loaders.
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Answer me this, how can 10500 dollars not cover tuition, which is about 5500. for a year? You do have other forms of financial aid don't you?
 
TX's decision to go to OU is his decision. He was asking any comments on the school, not constant banter and harassment for his decision. Some people just don't like UND...so deal with it.
 
UND does not mail out notices any more. The only way you can see if you have an extra fee is to check your PeopleSoft account and logging onto that is like trying to fly to the moon with paper wings.
 
Dugie8 said:
Answer me this, how can 10500 dollars not cover tuition, which is about 5500. for a year? You do have other forms of financial aid don't you?
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dude. READING SKILLS.

the site you quote says

3rd year - dependent student - 5500 FOR THE WHOLE YEAR

so thats 2250 per semester. which, is a hair under the total tuition and fees for UND for a semester in state.

i stated stafford loans do not cover my tuition, let alone the flying portion. are you seeing the same facts im seeing here, because im quoting right from the webpage you list.
 
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