Payload Optimized
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ClarkGriswold
Non Nutritive Cereal Varnish Engineer
Not that I know of. It means that the chance of getting on are significantly reduced if already full. Where you going?
It's like a "historical template" that load planning has on particular flights.
I'd say a large percentage of the time, it's slapped on flights that it really doesn't need to be designated as 'payload optimized' and if the load planner is doing his job, everyone will be ok. Whenever I see that on my flight plan, I'll generally call the OCC and ask if we really need to do that. Most of the time the answer is no.
When i did international flights, they'd assume the worst possible scenario and designated the flight based on that. But no, we're not taking off with a tailwind, we will have an extended taxi time and the winds are heavily favorable to get butts in seats and cargo in the bins, so we'll have the OCC reflect that.
Note of caution, there are some non-rev travel facebook groups and they're heavily full of poo when it comes to the topic.
I'd say a large percentage of the time, it's slapped on flights that it really doesn't need to be designated as 'payload optimized' and if the load planner is doing his job, everyone will be ok. Whenever I see that on my flight plan, I'll generally call the OCC and ask if we really need to do that. Most of the time the answer is no.
When i did international flights, they'd assume the worst possible scenario and designated the flight based on that. But no, we're not taking off with a tailwind, we will have an extended taxi time and the winds are heavily favorable to get butts in seats and cargo in the bins, so we'll have the OCC reflect that.
Note of caution, there are some non-rev travel facebook groups and they're heavily full of poo when it comes to the topic.
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ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
You guys dont?You...have...load planners?
Cool.
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No, and no one would know it was PO until the FP is sent a few hours before departure.
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Ayork62493
GBR
Speaking of which, anyone have experience with DL out of CDG? Nearly all of the flights say they may be payload optimized. Looking to use CDG to come back from Italy in late September. Looking forward to dealing with the AF agents in CDG.
KSCessnaDriver
Well-Known Member
Find the airports DL flies to that aren't a hub, from CDG... I'm not sure if PIT lasts until September, but IND does...
Ayork62493
GBR
Saw that, IND, RDU, and EWR. My biggest concern is the agents themselves. I have UAL from there as well I can use.
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
You’re dealing with Air France employees. They’re French. Nuff said. If you’re in Italy why not try Rome, Milan, Venice, Naples, or Pisa?
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Ayork62493
GBR
Italy can be a nightmare on regional priority. I found cheap tickets from Rome to Paris and the girlfriend has always wanted to see Paris. We’ll spend a day there and then gamble with the French agents coming back. Just way more options from Paris
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
Keep going North to BRU.
CDG is non-rev "Never Never Land". It is absolutely impossible to determine where you are on the standby list, the agents are absolutely heartless and the answer is always "We ahh FOOLY BOOked".
Schiphol flashbacks!
"I'm going to the jet. I am working the flight"
"EET EESH NOT POSHEBULL"
"Yes, it is possible. See look, here's the door code, I'm going to the jet"
"EET EESS FOOLY BOOKT!"
"Great. I'll be on the jet. Oh can you service the water?"