pay cuts ok

From what I read the judge felt as though Comair bargained in good faith and that why shold one remaining group of employees determine the fate of all the remaining employees that have already given consessions or paycuts. there was alo mention as to why the pilots and ALPA had aggreed to higher paycuts previously and not to the lower current proposed paycut. Comair already filed a motion today to prohibit a strike. We still have three more days next week for both parties to come to an agreement. I hope they can work something out than have it forced on them.
 
H46Bubba said:
We still have three more days next week for both parties to come to an agreement. I hope they can work something out than have it forced on them.
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One thing I learned from watching the Mesaba strike, when a company says it has three days, it really means three months......
 
I haven't been following the CMR situation that close but something seems odd.

According to the RLA which governs labor issues with airlines if an impasse is declared and binding arbitration is rejected then the parties go into a cooling off period (30 days) which can be extended once.

After that the parties are relased to "self help" i.e. strike (labor) imposed contract (management). The only way a contract gets mandated or dictated is by an act of congress, which has happened but only once or twice. (working from an old pharts memory so bear with me)

I'm going to have to go read up on the CMR issue as I don't ever remember the judicial getting involved unless there was clear cut evidence of violations of labor LAW.

Again, just working from memory and a short stay in a Holiday Inn Express!
 
ROFCIBC said:
I haven't been following the CMR situation that close but something seems odd.

According to the RLA which governs labor issues with airlines if an impasse is declared and binding arbitration is rejected then the parties go into a cooling off period (30 days) which can be extended once.

After that the parties are relased to "self help" i.e. strike (labor) imposed contract (management). The only way a contract gets mandated or dictated is by an act of congress, which has happened but only once or twice. (working from an old pharts memory so bear with me)

I'm going to have to go read up on the CMR issue as I don't ever remember the judicial getting involved unless there was clear cut evidence of violations of labor LAW.

Again, just working from memory and a short stay in a Holiday Inn Express!
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You'll have to read up on your bankruptcy code too. If this contact is imposed in bankruptcy court it would not be the first time by a long shot. Remember, in a bankruptcy all kinds of contracts get refashioned or cancelled, not just labor contracts. While there's been a great debate about whether RLA or BK code should apply in these cases, so far it seems the BK code trumps RLA. This would have to be settled by new laws or some kind of higher court ruling.

Remember too that when Lorenzo used bankruptcy to void his labor contracts there was no recourse available to labor. After that the bankruptcy code was changed to require labor negotiation and judges have since given time for labor contracts to be settled by negotiation. But if there is no negotiated settlement the judge has to make the call.

Why do labor groups "allow" that to happen? Because at a bankrupt company there usually isn't any question of the company withstanding a strike. So a strike usually is equivalent to quitting your job.
 
H46Bubba said:
Comair already filed a motion today to prohibit a strike. We still have three more days next week for both parties to come to an agreement. I hope they can work something out than have it forced on them.
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agreed...unfortunately, if court imposes a "no strike" force then the only way to beat it is to have every pilot resign in mass...something has to be shown that the court is overstepping....can't go to jail if you no longer work for the company and plenty of places are seriously hiring right now.

kwim?!
 
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