Passed IR oral, but not with much grace....

Thanks for all the words of advice everyone! I have my flight scheduled for Thursday, hopefully the wx will cooperate with me so I can get it done. I have only been able to fly about three times in the last five weeks, but am keeping myself proficient in the PCATD. I even had my CFI sit in on some PCATD sessions to act as ATC and throw me some curveballs, all seems to go well during these sessions so I am sure everything will be fine. I will keep you all updated and hopefully by Thursday I will be an instrument rated pilot!!! Thanks again.
 
DubyaDawg said:
I just took my Instrument EOC yesterday, and I had the exact same response to the icing question, I wasn't 100% sure on the actual reg, but was certain that I would not fly into them. Examiner seemed satisfied but still probed me until I somewhat guessed the reg, which I suppose was the correct answer! Unfortunately, by the time we were done it was dusk, but decided to go anyway. That combined with some odd vectors from ATC was enough of a distraction that I went full scale on my first approach... Not blaming anyone but myself, I'd done that approach many many times in the past week (including my stage check) well within standards. Guess nerve/slight doubt in myself got the best of me.
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Exactly what reg are we all referencing here?
 
Still not sure the exact one, but I think its that you can't fly into known icing conditions without proper anti/de-icing equipment.
 
JDean3204 said:
Thanks for all the reply's as I was pretty low last night and quite frankly did not feel like even scheduling the flight portion as my self confidence was in the dirt. I woke up today with a fresh attitude about it and will be trying to schedule it as soon as possible.
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Remember that sometimes the examiner feels you know enough to be able to safely execute the certificate you're being awarded, but they also know that you have no real experience, and as part of their awarding those privileges they want you to be very aware that you still have a lot to learn. It's not about feeling good or bad about how impressive your knowledge is, but rather about proceeding with an appropriate attitude based on your credentials, skill, and experience levels... all of which may increase or decrease over time.

Be assured, she would not have passed you if you were not within standards... so take that for what it is. Continue to learn in the areas you struggled with, and look for real life application by learning from others and through your own real world experience.
 
DubyaDawg said:
Still not sure the exact one, but I think its that you can't fly into known icing conditions without proper anti/de-icing equipment.
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Just so we're clear, for both of you guys, the examiner is referencing
Subpart F: § 91.527 Operating in icing conditions.​

Is that correct?
 
Forgot to add,
Subpart F—Large and Turbine-Powered Multiengine Airplanes and Fractional Ownership Program Aircraft


They busted you guys for stuff under subpart F?
 
As for the icing...

Known icing is an aircraft certification criteria, not a separate FAR.... read most relatively modern small piston aircraft POH and you'll see a line in the operating limitations that says "Flight into known icing conditions is prohibited" which means do it and you may (though very unlikely) face investigation.

There was a period of time where the FAA thought they'd go after knowing icing violations, it resulted in very crappy PIREPS because nobody would ever admit they were in ice. So the FAA stopped that practice. Now you pretty much need to break something before you're going to get in trouble for it.
 
You passed, probobly learned quite a few things and have some other topics that I bet you would like to study up on to better yourself. I'd say your oral went pretty well.
 
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