Part 141 syllabus

[CDVdriver]

Talk to your instructor.
ask him to bring out the FAR-AIM and go through your logbook together.
Find out how many of the requirements for the Part 61 CPL you already meet.
Ask his/her opinion and ask if you can be transferred to Part 61 if that makes more sense.
All it takes is the Chief Flight instructor writing a comment on your 141 training records that you have transferred to Part 61.
No big deal, don't get hung up on it.
The part of my job that I really like is sitting together with somebody and finding the most efficient way of doing things.

 

[skidz]

As far as i know our 141 cert is the same as everybody elses so i dont see how it is a problem but i do agree with you and say for skidz go out and do research and find what is best for you. sorry if i have upset anyone with my opinion and comment.

-Farva

I don't have a problem with either 141 or 61, I've done both. I've done my research too, I don't have a choice here. There are only two schools here.
I'm just trying to figure out which way is gonna cost me less, doing the 250 hours by 61 or trying to cut it down by 141 if the syllabus allows it that's all.

 

[skidz]

141 Commercial course is too much time, too much dual, and too expensive unless you're foreign or using GI bill. Do it 61.
61/141 Instrument course is a toss up, just depends on the school.

In my school everyhing is dual. That's what my instr. told me anyway. Weird. :crazy:

 

[minitour]

Total for this would cost you around $7000. Now, run that cost agains't the 141 program...even with VA benefits. You cannot timeshare (safety pilot) in a 141 program.

Actually, you can. My Commercial 141 program included an option for the student of either solo or safety pilot time. The regs only require 55 dual and 10 solo, so you're left with another 55 hours to do whatever you want. Again, it needs to be outlined in the TCO, but when you're making your TCO, you can have whatever you want in there.

It's just what will your POI approve?

I got about 140 hours right now. Some 80 or so is x-country. After I get my IR I should be close to 180 or so. With part 141 it would take another 120 hours for commercial which would maybe not work for me because that would put me close to 300 hours. Part 61 would probably work better in this case. However, I am wondering what do you all think is a reasonable amount of hours that I might need to fly to get the commercial done given the hours I already have?? I'm just trying to sort of make an assesment to see if the extra hours required are really needed or not.

I'd go Part 61.

How many hours? Tough to say...30 at least, I'd guess maybe more. Obviously you'd have to meet the part 61 requirements of 250TT the cross countries, the solo, etc. However, do your multi-training within the first 250 hours (say 5 hours of multi training?) and 5 hours in a single engine complex airplane (172RG, mooney, arrow, etc.) and you'll kill two birds with one stone. You'll meet the 10 hour complex requirement and immediately after your CSEL ride, you can take your CMEL ride if you're proficient. It may save you some $$.

See, this is exactly what confuses the hell out of me....if you got to stick to the syllabus that means you have to stick to that 120 hours requirement which is outlined in the syllabus. So how do you take your current time and follow the syllabus at the same time??

You HAVE to stick to the syllabus. What ever it says, is the law.

Well, according to this I see that I only need 55 dual and the rest of it I can apply my current hours, am I right?

No. You'd need the rest of the hours contained in the syllabus.

Personally......I'd go 61 in your situation.

Good luck!

-mini

 

[skidz]

Thanx minitour, this make the most sense to me.

 

[Wolfy]

In my school everyhing is dual. That's what my instr. told me anyway. Weird. :crazy:

All dual instrument is somewhat common. All dual commercial wouldn't work.