Paranoia and Concerns about ATP
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DBrown
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Zero to CFI in 6 months?
The reason they have to guarantee you a job is because nobody in their right mind would hire a CFI with only six months total flying experience.
And odds are you're going to come out of there only having ever flown 2 airplanes at 4 or 5 airports in 2 seasons of the year.
I'm actually a fan of some of their courses
Just not this one.
Just for the sake of argument let's say you do it, then you get hired from somebody other than ATP as an instructor you're going to make about $10 bucks an hour at the most, even the places where I made $25 $30 an hour as CFII it all washed out at the end & averaged about 10 bucks.
$30 an hour sounds good until you only fly three hours a day, and you're required to be there from sunrise till sunset, or later on those dual night flights.
It's going to take a good long time to pay back the loan to ATP.
And you will always be one bad medical away from losing everything
My recommendation is to do what you love to do but try to have a backup in case things go south.
If you're starting at zero you have no idea what to expect at this point, you could get your CFI and end up hating to teach.
The reason they have to guarantee you a job is because nobody in their right mind would hire a CFI with only six months total flying experience.
And odds are you're going to come out of there only having ever flown 2 airplanes at 4 or 5 airports in 2 seasons of the year.
I'm actually a fan of some of their courses
Just not this one.
Just for the sake of argument let's say you do it, then you get hired from somebody other than ATP as an instructor you're going to make about $10 bucks an hour at the most, even the places where I made $25 $30 an hour as CFII it all washed out at the end & averaged about 10 bucks.
$30 an hour sounds good until you only fly three hours a day, and you're required to be there from sunrise till sunset, or later on those dual night flights.
It's going to take a good long time to pay back the loan to ATP.
And you will always be one bad medical away from losing everything
My recommendation is to do what you love to do but try to have a backup in case things go south.
If you're starting at zero you have no idea what to expect at this point, you could get your CFI and end up hating to teach.
Cloud Surfer
All Roads lead to Trantor
It's the journey that counts. Who cares whether it takes a year or two or three to get from 0 to CFI? People who take their time to train and to learn as much as they can, more often than not are much more knowledgeable and more competent than those who crammed their training into a six months long timespan. And when you carefully think about it, it makes sense. Learning is STRONGLY based on how much one perceives within and around themselves. Reducing the time opportunity for you to absorb crucial information will not help you in receiving it and withholding it!
As witness to that, the very few graduates whom I met which came from ATP's fast track program were pretty incompetent. One fellow taking his CFI-I ride got lost on the ground as he was taxing to a runway on an already familiar airport, had to request progressive taxi to reach the active. It wasn't even that which killed him. He couldn't speak right on the radios or understand when to descend on an IAP.
That's not to say that everyone who hailed from ATP is a bad pilot, but from what I've seen, stay away!
As witness to that, the very few graduates whom I met which came from ATP's fast track program were pretty incompetent. One fellow taking his CFI-I ride got lost on the ground as he was taxing to a runway on an already familiar airport, had to request progressive taxi to reach the active. It wasn't even that which killed him. He couldn't speak right on the radios or understand when to descend on an IAP.
That's not to say that everyone who hailed from ATP is a bad pilot, but from what I've seen, stay away!
DE727UPS
Well-Known Member
Look. They have the best ads with the best promises. Always a banner link at the top of every page at Jetcareers. You will never win against that. The next newb that comes to JC sees the link and thinks he found the answer to his future. JC needs to walk away from ATP.....such an advertiser does not represent the site well.
Mike Wise
#NewSchool
DBrown
Well-Known Member
Word!