Paid to get dressed...

Regional guys in particular:

Can you imagine if pilot groups had "plane swap pay," where you were paid more to accept/preflight a new aircraft?

(We're not the only regional with numerous plane swaps in a day, are we?)

J.
 
must take them along time to put on and take off your clothes. I can be fully undress in less than 10 seconds.
 
I have a friend who is a reserve police officer. They have to clean and maintian all that equipment and it does take time. They have to put on like 3 layers. Undergarments i.e underwear/boxers, Vest then finally the uniform. Then they must wear a duty belt and place thier radio, extra ammo, pepper spray, gun, handcuffs, flashlight, nightstick, tazer gun. Then they must check all the equipment is properly functioning prior to each shift, just like they check lights and sirens on the cars before they go out. Then they still place thier nametag and badge. They must clean all this equipment often and maintain a professional apperance at all times. This takes time to clean and maintain thier equipment and place it properly.
 
oktex88 said:
I have a friend who is a reserve police officer. They have to clean and maintian all that equipment and it does take time. They have to put on like 3 layers. Undergarments i.e underwear/boxers, Vest then finally the uniform. Then they must wear a duty belt and place thier radio, extra ammo, pepper spray, gun, handcuffs, flashlight, nightstick, tazer gun. Then they must check all the equipment is properly functioning prior to each shift, just like they check lights and sirens on the cars before they go out. Then they still place thier nametag and badge. They must clean all this equipment often and maintain a professional apperance at all times. This takes time to clean and maintain thier equipment and place it properly.
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Ahh yes, very true.

And the reserves out here dont get paid! Take that!:confused:
 
oktex88 said:
I have a friend who is a reserve police officer. They have to clean and maintian all that equipment and it does take time. They have to put on like 3 layers. Undergarments i.e underwear/boxers, Vest then finally the uniform. Then they must wear a duty belt and place thier radio, extra ammo, pepper spray, gun, handcuffs, flashlight, nightstick, tazer gun. Then they must check all the equipment is properly functioning prior to each shift, just like they check lights and sirens on the cars before they go out. Then they still place thier nametag and badge. They must clean all this equipment often and maintain a professional apperance at all times. This takes time to clean and maintain thier equipment and place it properly.
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Sounds like typical preflight operations, which pilots are not paid for.
 
...and no one in the airline industry has looked at the US Fair Labor Standards Act? If we get off our collective butt we should sue for all the time that we are working but the engines are not running!

I don't even care to get paid to get dressed. I just want to be paid for all the sit time, swap time, etc. that we do and don't get paid for.
 
Hernandezcfi;1176875 I don't even care to get paid to get dressed. I just want to be paid for all the sit time said:
If we get called out to the airport on RSV and then get sent home for whatever reason, we get "suitup pay." I think it's 2 hours pay.
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Hernandezcfi said:
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I don't even care to get paid to get dressed. I just want to be paid for all the sit time, swap time, etc. that we do and don't get paid for.
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If you chose to be paid that way your hourly pay will probably get cut by 1/3 to 1/2.

Personally I don't agree with the notion of getting paid to get dressed. When my wife goes to work she doesn't get "paid" specifically to put clothes on.

I'd probably be in support of a daily type based pay, ie you get paid $xx for a guarantee w/ X days off and then for every day they schedule you above that you get $xx per day. In this way a reserve pilot might actually make more than a line pilot.
 
wheelsup said:
I'd probably be in support of a daily type based pay, ie you get paid $xx for a guarantee w/ X days off and then for every day they schedule you above that you get $xx per day. In this way a reserve pilot might actually make more than a line pilot.
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Thats sort of how the company I work for pays. Its sort of salaried on a 5 day work week. You get payed more if you work more than five days or if you are called upon to do extra work other than what you were scheduled to do for that day. The disadvantage is that it doesn't matter if you have a scheduled four hr duty day or a 16hr duty day, the pay is the same. Of course there is a management loop hole in it here and there though.:rolleyes:
 
Cptnchia said:
If we get called out to the airport on RSV and then get sent home for whatever reason, we get "suitup pay." I think it's 2 hours pay.
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Yeah, 2 hours of $0 per hour if you are under guarantee which 9 times out of 10 you will be if you get alot of RSV.

Let them put that on top of my holiday pay I don't get if I'm under guarantee.
 
Hernandezcfi said:
Yeah, 2 hours of $0 per hour if you are under guarantee which 9 times out of 10 you will be if you get alot of RSV.
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For us I do believe it's on top of guarantee, too lazy to find my contract, so the $220 would at least pay for gas and lunch.
 
FYI, when I was a glorified carny at Disney, we got 20 minutes of pay to walk downstairs, change clothes and turn in the uniform we got that morning. Oddly, if you were at one of the theme parks that did the "take your costume home with you," you didn't get the extra 20 minutes.
 
If I'm getting hazardous duty pay, hostile fire pay, family separation pay, and tax free here in Kyrgyzstan, I should get that if I have to layover in Detroit.
 
BobDDuck said:
I'm pretty certain ALPA looked at it but found that the RLA trumps the FLSA.
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Correct. The FLSA requirements for overtime pay specifically do not apply to "(3) any employee of a carrier by air subject to the provisions of title II of the Railway Labor Act [45 U.S.C. 181 et seq.]."

Sorry.
 
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