Pacific Wings

Mr_Creepy said:
Of course it does. The PIC does not have enough hours to meet the open pilot clause, so they are asking him to take a CFI or equivalent with him.

Happens all the time.

NO, it doesn't. It's lame.
 
meritflyer said:
Anyone have any information on Pacific Wings Airlines in Hawaii? Apparantely they hire you at low time (400-700) to be a SIC on a Caravan (not a PFT gig).

Any info?

You should see the tv spots they run out here, all the employees on it(including FOs and CAs) look like teenagers. Tho there are 1 or 2 good looking female pilots. Must be a riot to see them throwing bags.

They must have some niche passengers because from what I've seen they are 1) more expensive than Aloha or Hawaiian, 2) have crappy middle of the day and late evening flight times 3) have crappy routes (wanna fly to Kahului, you get to stop in Hana?) I was all gung ho to give them a try on the next inter-island travel till I looked into it. No thanks, I'll take a jet for cheaper, at the time I want.

From what the people are saying here, sounds like a worse deal than Great Lakes or Mesa.
 
mtsu_av8er said:
I've never heard of an insurance company requiring an SIC in a Caravan.

Besides, when did the insurance companies start regulating the logging of flight time?
I am just guessing, but I would think that their insurance would be lower with two-pilot crews. Of course, the Caravan's cert doesn't require two pilots, though.

I've been there a few times, and they seemed to be a pretty professional bunch, and also seemed to be enjoying themselves. Beautiful, beautiful area.
 
Purdue_Pilot said:
Looking deeply at the FAR's, they (61.55) state that SIC can only be logged in an aircraft requiring more than one pilot by the type certificate. Even if the insurance requires more than one pilot, SIC cannot be logged if only one pilot is required by the type certificate. I'm not familiar with the caravan, but if it's part 135 type certificated for 1 pilot, then a right seat pilot could only log the time as "the sole manipulator of the controls" per 61.51.

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. . . and absolutely, the Caravan's cert doesn't require it. Again, just guessing, but I think that the carrier's insurance would be lower if they run it as two-pilots. They are a full carrier (not on-demand).
 
Ripper3785 said:
You should see the tv spots they run out here, all the employees on it(including FOs and CAs) look like teenagers. Tho there are 1 or 2 good looking female pilots. Must be a riot to see them throwing bags.

They must have some niche passengers because from what I've seen they are 1) more expensive than Aloha or Hawaiian, 2) have crappy middle of the day and late evening flight times 3) have crappy routes (wanna fly to Kahului, you get to stop in Hana?) I was all gung ho to give them a try on the next inter-island travel till I looked into it. No thanks, I'll take a jet for cheaper, at the time I want.

From what the people are saying here, sounds like a worse deal than Great Lakes or Mesa.
Hmmm. Are you sure about those prices? Actually, on some routes, I think you are right. Then again, you are also right about the niche idea. If you want to get to Hana, there aren't a lot of other choices!
 
I checked quite a few dates. I'm sure they make their money on the smaller airports like hana, kapalua, kamuela, kalaupapa. At least they don't have many seats to fill.

And to top it off, their website only works with Internet Explorer. Nice..
 
They don't have an SIC on every flight just ones where your not throwing bags and have some "free" time to donate to the company. They'll leave with or without you in the right seat. I think the make most of thier money on the EAS flight to hana, kalupapa, kamuela etc......
 
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