Option to resign or be terminated...

brigadeaviator said:
Well my soon to be former employer has given me the option to resign or be terminated... That was days before the Christmas holiday. Back story: I was the non-flying copilot in a crash that recently occurred in a single pilot certified jet. The reason I was given for this decision told me they were looking for anything they could find to hang me out to dry. The whole situation is foul and now it seems I'm waiting for a while before I could see the NTSB findings and can move in any direction aviation wise. I'm trying to be positive about the whole situation and looking at this as a great and valuable learning experience. Good news is I survived a plane crash in one piece and 2015 can only get better than last year for me.
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Congrats on surviving. I hope to never know that exhilarating feeling after walking away from potential death.

I would heavily suggest speaking with an aviation attorney.
 
rockman2343@aol.com said:
Well you wouldn't work for me for very long then.
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brigadeaviator said:
Well my soon to be former employer has given me the option to resign or be terminated... That was days before the Christmas holiday. Back story: I was the non-flying copilot in a crash that recently occurred in a single pilot certified jet. The reason I was given for this decision told me they were looking for anything they could find to hang me out to dry. The whole situation is foul and now it seems I'm waiting for a while before I could see the NTSB findings and can move in any direction aviation wise. I'm trying to be positive about the whole situation and looking at this as a great and valuable learning experience. Good news is I survived a plane crash in one piece and 2015 can only get better than last year for me.
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The answer is dynamic. First of all, glad you're alive to be making this post on JC. Second of all, what would be their reasoning for termination? Are you at fault of something? Is this an "at will" employer? Can you share any details with regard to the accident? I am assuming you are operating a Phenom 100 or a Mustang that has 2 crew? Was the PIC fired as well?
 
Inverted said:
The answer is dynamic. First of all, glad you're alive to be making this post on JC. Second of all, what would be their reasoning for termination? Are you at fault of something? Is this an "at will" employer? Can you share any details with regard to the accident? I am assuming you are operating a Phenom 100 or a Mustang that has 2 crew? Was the PIC fired as well?
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DO NOT SHARE ANY OF THIS INFORMATION HERE.

@brigadeaviator
 
Gonzo said:
You work for Mesa I believe, so that will not be a problem. And any mainline airline willing to hire you is not one I would want to work at, so we should be ok.
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Not taking sides here but some mainline pilots are not exactly members of The Mormon Tabernacle Choir. I know several either personally or through friends with DUI's, drug issues, have wrecked their own airplanes or a combination of all three. Heck there's even a few that have bent their companies airplanes and kept their jobs. Now if it's more of a personal thing between you and rockman and you know more than what he's posted here, that's between you two. If you don't want to work at a place that'll hire a guy with a sketchy background and a DUI, your choices are pretty limited to an airline that doesn't exist.
 
PositionAndHold said:
Not taking sides here but some mainline pilots are not exactly members of The Mormon Tabernacle Choir. I know several either personally or through friends with DUI's, drug issues, have wrecked their own airplanes or a combination of all three. Heck there's even a few that have bent their companies airplanes and kept their jobs. Now if it's more of a personal thing between you and rockman and you know more than what he's posted here, that's between you two. If you don't want to work at a place that'll hire a guy with a sketchy background and a DUI, your choices are pretty limited to an airline that doesn't exist.
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I think the point is that, in theory, a chief pilot (and an ACP) is supposed to be THE example of "the aviator". Good decision making, good leadership, gets along with everybody, stands up for the pilots against management wrath, etc etc. Of course, very few CPs are actually like this and in fact, many are management stooges who got to where they are for doing the absolute opposite of those things listed above. I know I'd have a hard time taking criticism about making a poor decision seriously from a guy who's made a bunch of poor decisions.
 
BobDDuck said:
I think the point is that, in theory, a chief pilot (and an ACP) is supposed to be THE example of "the aviator". Good decision making, good leadership, gets along with everybody, stands up for the pilots against management wrath, etc etc. Of course, very few CPs are actually like this and in fact, many are management stooges who got to where they are for doing the absolute opposite of those things listed above. I know I'd have a hard time taking criticism about making a poor decision seriously from a guy who's made a bunch of poor decisions.
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Oh I completely understand and agree. I'm just pointing out the obvious that there are some complete turds out there whether line pilots or chief pilots. :)
 
My point was to let the OP know you can mess up, work your ass off, and still get a good job. Someone on here told me fly, or don't fly, and I was just passing it along. No one on this board is going to tell you the future, if you want it, keep knocking on doors until someone says yes. That being said the state of the economy has a lot to say as well.
 
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