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MercFE said:
Curious if ya'll use a "safety check" procedure in your flying. Required for us on all of our landings, completed prior to 200 ft or it's a go around. Only requires gear, flaps, and clearance. Not an actual "checklist," just part of our operating procedures.
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Nope. Some instructors teach it for general aviation flying, but I'm not aware of any airline that has a procedure for it in a crewed environment. In GA, the acronym that many instructors teach is "GUMPs." Gas, Undercarriage, Mixture, Props. In other words, fuel tank selector on the right tank(s), landing gear down, mixture full rich, props full forward. I never taught my students to do it, because I felt it was a crutch that encouraged them to not use the checklist. I gave too many progress checks to other instructors' students, seeing them skip the checklist completely and just do "GUMPs." Not cool. But it's very common in GA flying to teach it. Not so much at the airlines.
 
wheelsup said:
I do a "career check" at 500', gear & flaps down/cleared to land...works pretty good so far (knock on wood). Only thing that screws it up is if the radar altimeter fails to call 500'...we're like mice, trained to respond to a bell...
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So true... flew a CRJ with a deferred RA, talk about Pavlov's dog!
 
Let's see, they were flying a modern day jet airliner with all the bells and whistles...but somehow got below 500' with the gear still up? I call BS.

The Q400 gives you a "Too Low, GEAR" callout with terrain within 500ft, the gear up and below 190kts. Now the Q400 was designed by French canadian asshats, but it has a system that will tell you "Hey, dumbass, your gear is up".

I think a modern day product from the good folks at Boeing or the nancy men at Airbus would have the same type of system.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Nope. Some instructors teach it for general aviation flying, but I'm not aware of any airline that has a procedure for it in a crewed environment. In GA, the acronym that many instructors teach is "GUMPs." Gas, Undercarriage, Mixture, Props. In other words, fuel tank selector on the right tank(s), landing gear down, mixture full rich, props full forward. I never taught my students to do it, because I felt it was a crutch that encouraged them to not use the checklist. I gave too many progress checks to other instructors' students, seeing them skip the checklist completely and just do "GUMPs." Not cool. But it's very common in GA flying to teach it. Not so much at the airlines.
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It's a required 1000' callout for us.
 
What about flaps in landing config and a lower than normal thrust lever angle? That would give us a gear warning.

BUT what's wrong with a gear up landing?! Just requires more power to taxi off the runway...
 
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