Roger Roger
I am le tired
Do as I say, not as I did?
Omni Air International
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dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
You guys can do whatever you want. Just trying to save someone the trouble. Don't say I didn't warn ya.
Also, I was hired pre-contract, and things worsened considerably while I was there.
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Baronman
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Just curious what makes Atlas different? I don't know much about the ACMI business. Better contract? Are they the one ACMI company (largely) left standing? I understand the ending of much of the fighting in the Middle East caused a reduction in the ACMI biz in general correct? Honest questions...not really interested for myself but just trying to understand how things have changed over the last 2 or 3 years.
guywhoflies
Y'NO WUT IM SAYIN
What does ACMI stand for?
Aircraft Crew Maintenance Insurance.
Atlas is pretty diversified and it shows with them surviving where many of their competitors have failed.
Patrick
Well-Known Member
This.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
The military drawdown caused a reduction in the military flying of course, but that only accounts for roughly 10% of the total block hours at Atlas. The other 90% of the work is civilian, or branded Atlas/Polar freight. The big bloodshed in the ACMI segment were with companies that were almost exclusively military.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Sounds like an impossible job for those with gf/wife/kids but if you are single what have you got to lose? No one is gonna miss you the 90 days you are gone. I say enjoy life while you are young and single.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
I guess, but I prefer to enjoy my single life at home doing stuff outside any work obligation.
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Unless your current place is that bad. From what I've heard from some friends at Endeavor, based on recent events and such, Omni might be a step up. If you're never home because you keep getting JM'ed and can't commute home anyway, might as well get the hotel room paid for.....
cmhumphr
Well-Known Member
How much flight time does an FO normally get? Do you have to live in base or does the company buy a ticket for you for trips like Polar/Atlas?
HVYMETALDRVR
Well-Known Member
Really? I thought the new contract had a lot of improvements over the old one? Sucks.
I bumped into an Omni pilot at JFK a few months back and he pretty reiterated everything else you said earlier in the thread. He was not happy about the TDY...
Maurus
The Great Gazoo
It was their first contract I do believe.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
I think I averaged about 350 hours per year at Omni. Omni doesn't have any specific bases other than LAS (and I guess Madrid now), so yes, the company buys you a ticket to work. Travel is economy class only.
Like @Maurus said, it's first contract for them. There were pay improvements over how it was before, but the CBA is so full of holes that the increase in pay doesn't make up for it. Omni management no doubt did a happy dance the day the CBA was ratified.
HVYMETALDRVR
Well-Known Member
Gotcha. I see what you mean.
HVYMETALDRVR
Well-Known Member
A little off topic, but is it possible to live/commute in Asia while flying for Atlas? I read on APC that's there's an Omni pilot that commutes out of BKK.
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Dan208B
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Wow that makes no sense at all to me. Omni isn't a good enough place to work to commute that far. There are lots of Boeing contracts in Asia that would be a much better deal for someone in that situation.
chrisdahut1
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On the contrary...the contract turned out to be very concessionary in work rules. I'm a little ashamed to say I voted yes for it...partially thinking "How can this place get any worse?". Well, Teamsters and Omni management worked together to prove that yes...as bad as Omni was in December 2011, it can indeed be much worse.
chrisdahut1
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It's not terrible for a single guy. If you enjoy being a nomad (many people do, myself included for many years), it can be an adventure. But it does take it's toll. Being gone for 18-40 days at a time when you're not doing a 90 day TDY means you can't live anything that resembles a normal home life. It wasn't a big deal when I was 26, but was at 33.
