Oh Virgin

Sorry, but I love this quote:

" A first officer is tasked with some of the most important jobs in commercial aviation: talking to air traffic control, assisting with take-off and flight procedures and — should anything happen to the captain – commandeering the flight as well."

I had been kind of bummed about the fact that my 6 week "vacation" is nearly over and I have to leave soon to go to Guppy school in ATL but now I can't wait to become an FO again so I can bide my time until I too can commandeer a flight.
 
n156499000 said:
Sorry, but I love this quote:

" A first officer is tasked with some of the most important jobs in commercial aviation: talking to air traffic control, assisting with take-off and flight procedures and — should anything happen to the captain – commandeering the flight as well."

I had been kind of bummed about the fact that my 6 week "vacation" is nearly over and I have to leave soon to go to Guppy school in ATL but now I can't wait to become an FO again so I can bide my time until I too can commandeer a flight.
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I was just about to quote that line too. Fantastic!
 
n156499000 said:
Sorry, but I love this quote:

" A first officer is tasked with some of the most important jobs in commercial aviation: talking to air traffic control, assisting with take-off and flight procedures and — should anything happen to the captain – commandeering the flight as well."

I had been kind of bummed about the fact that my 6 week "vacation" is nearly over and I have to leave soon to go to Guppy school in ATL but now I can't wait to become an FO again so I can bide my time until I too can commandeer a flight.
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I read “a first officer is tasked…” and then just completely skipped over that paragraph. I knew whatever words were put in there would in no way accurately depict what an FO does… thus not worthy of reading.
 
Hey, you aren't qualified. Lets take what otherwise should be a normal flight, normal crossing, and a normal landing in New York, and take this unqualified FO and have him declare an emergency, coordinate with ATC to find an area to dump fuel, go build a hold over there, then dump fuel, then return for a landing. I don't know the A330, maybe in leiu of all that, forget the dumping and go back and land overweight at LHR?


Sorry, but go land at New York.
File an ASAP.
DH the FO home.
DH a new qualified FO to NYC.

Problem solved. Far cheaper, far safer. I can't imagine a result other than a FAA slap-on-the-wrist morning English Black Tea for Virgin Atlantic.
 
From the way that reads, it sounds like FO didn’t do quarterly CBTs or something, and became unqual’d.

Doesn't read like “I’ve not finished OE, but Imma try and operate this flight”. Can’t imagine a dispatcher would plan a flight for a crew, not notice the Qual codes don’t match for the flight and not speak up.
 
SurferLucas said:
From the way that reads, it sounds like FO didn’t do quarterly CBTs or something, and became unqual’d.

Doesn't read like “I’ve not finished OE, but Imma try and operate this flight”. Can’t imagine a dispatcher would plan a flight for a crew, not notice the Qual codes don’t match for the flight and not speak up.
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Who knows about dispatch software. Didn’t AA fly a non-ETOPs 321 to Hawaii once? One would think the software would spit out an error message.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Who knows about dispatch software. Didn’t AA fly a non-ETOPs 321 to Hawaii once? One would think the software would spit out an error message.
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I’m sure it could. But that’s not going to do a lot of good when OP’s works the HNL flight out of gate 2 instead of gate 3 and the crew is complacent.
 
bbmikej said:
You think a dispatcher knows if a crew is qualified? That's a crew scheduling issue.
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Yep, that’s been my last 15 years experience anyways.

My previous airline, there were qual codes on every release. If someone had a T (Training/OE)by their name, they’d better be with an I (IOE) captain.

Hence why I said, it’s probably a situation of someone not completing CBT’s (which would unqual us if we didn’t complete them) vs someone that wasn’t off to the line.
 
SurferLucas said:
Yep, that’s been my last 15 years experience anyways.

My previous airline, there were qual codes on every release. If someone had a T (Training/OE)by their name, they’d better be with an I (IOE) captain.

Hence why I said, it’s probably a situation of someone not completing CBT’s (which would unqual us if we didn’t complete them) vs someone that wasn’t off to the line.
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I'm sure that the dishpatcher could look it up if they wanted to.
 
bbmikej said:
I'm sure that the dishpatcher could look it up if they wanted to.
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I was on a first name basis with all the dispatchers at my former airline, and I personally sat in on a delay code meeting where a dispatcher caught this very mistake.
 
SurferLucas said:
Yep, that’s been my last 15 years experience anyways.

My previous airline, there were qual codes on every release. If someone had a T (Training/OE)by their name, they’d better be with an I (IOE) captain.

Hence why I said, it’s probably a situation of someone not completing CBT’s (which would unqual us if we didn’t complete them) vs someone that wasn’t off to the line.
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Some parts of the company just don’t communicate well with others. During my Covid beard growing hiatus I was non-qual for about 8 months and at month 3’ish scheduling tried to have me sit short call one day. I was all like, “that’s gonna be a no for me…”
 
n156499000 said:
Sorry, but I love this quote:

" A first officer is tasked with some of the most important jobs in commercial aviation: talking to air traffic control, assisting with take-off and flight procedures and — should anything happen to the captain – commandeering the flight as well."

I had been kind of bummed about the fact that my 6 week "vacation" is nearly over and I have to leave soon to go to Guppy school in ATL but now I can't wait to become an FO again so I can bide my time until I too can commandeer a flight.
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I'm still waiting to find out what button that no pilot should push!
 
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