NovemberEcho
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Yeeeaaahhhh….y’all kept refusing to fly through it. We actually have more staffing now than any time since 2018.
Oh United
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Yeeeaaahhhh….y’all kept refusing to fly through it. We actually have more staffing now than any time since 2018.
Did he really sign off with an emoji?
nabbyfan
Well-Known Member
Glad it’s getting at least a bit better out there. We’re going the other way, with people now straight quitting the agency lmao. My facility has lost a handful w more ready to if things don’t improve.
Writing out my shifts on the calendar and seeing only 4 days Off a month sucks. It’s been about 7 years of that with no end in sight for us either.
FAA issues are going to be more and more prevalent across the NAS as more of the ARTCCs have specific areas extremely understaffed with no ability to train their way out of it. Shifts are routinely running w 4-5 controllers when the number is supposed to be 10-11. That’s only workable for so long before people break.
NovemberEcho
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Us to. The retirement wave in my area is finally over. To give perspective, I got here in 2014. We currently have 32 CPC’s (after a low of 27, 63 being 100%). Only 4 of them were here when I got here. We would check out 4 people and 6 would retire. We went from the oldest sector in the building to the youngest. Unfortunately though, there’s def more than 1 who I’m pretty sure they pushed through to show training successes to try and fight the PHL move and it’s noticeable.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Minuteman
Shipoaster
Truth-be-told that’s no small feat on a Windows machine in MS Office.
NovemberEcho
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So fun fact, according to our TMU, United called and specifically ASKED to have the rates lowered
What is the PHL move? A consolidation?
NovemberEcho
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The plan was to move the EWR area only from N90 to PHL Tracon in the hope that more experienced controllers would bid transfers there. The problem is the FAA went about it the stupidest way possible and eventually Chuck Schumer killed it. Operationally, it was an absolutely stupid move that probably would have led to more problems than it solved even with better staffing in the EWR area. You can’t break up N90, (well, maybe Islip) either the whole building has to move or everyone stays put.
ChasenSFO
hen teaser
Funny, because I recall the FAA publically announcing that they had warned airlines late last year that FAA ATC facilities would not be able to accommodate aggressive hub schedules during the summer of 2023 in many cases. So... the same old white noise brigade tactics to "grab the cash bag and run" while hucking the liability hot potato to the feds.
Wow, that is the only thing in this thread that surprises me lol but that must be awesome for your QOL.
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FAA is wanting to do that here too, with U90. Closing it and having P50 handle all the departure/approach radar traffic into TUS/DMA, as it doesn’t matter where the radar people are geographically located. U90 is doing anything and everything they can for traffic counters, no matter how useless (like giving a squawk code then kicking you over to tower), in order to try and stay relevant. P50 at least has newer modern facilities, whereas U90 is in the same small crap building they have always been in. When TUS got a new tower, there was thought U90 would move over there with them, but no new facilities were created for U90.
Yes.
NovemberEcho
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And in a situation like that it could work fine. It’s happened plenty of times in the past. SCT, NCT, PCT, the CT stands for consolidated Tracon. But splitting EWR into a separate building means that some of the intrafacility LOA’s and face to face coordination can’t be done which would have a big impact on EWR and LGA ops, both arrivals and departures.
Oh definitely, I certainly agree it would have far greater an operational and administrative impact there, than anything remotely here. Just seems like this is a long term drive by the FAA to reduce infrastructure?
that's a spicy meatball. let's go to the tapes
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Is TMU the ATC equivalent of check airmen as far as starting rumors goes?
NovemberEcho
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No they’re too busy doing food runs to start rumors
NovemberEcho
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They’re doing food runs for TMU not for us. And ATA isn’t a thing anymore and we’re supposed to treat the trainees like humans now cause wokeness or something.