Oh United

I was never asked about a resignation letter back in the 1990’s.

I kind of just... uh... stopped going... for the most part but I did officially resign.

A guy in my indoc class was on vacation from Horizon and didn’t resign until he got his new ID to retain jumpseat and health benefits. I thought it was wizard.
 
It’s the seniority system. If moves don’t work out, it’s not fair to the current pilots on the list who decided to stay.

I doubt AS would take anyone back. I’ve heard they keep track of that stuff and hold it against us if we go to the big 3. Plus we have to give a one month notice.
For what it’s worth I know of a guy who left the bus side of AS to go fly the max over in iceland but when things came to a halt over there and he got furloughed he came back to AS on the proudly all boeing side. Then again I dont know if he got his seniority back...
 
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I was never asked about a resignation letter back in the 1990’s.

I kind of just... uh... stopped going... for the most part but I did officially resign.

A guy in my indoc class was on vacation from Horizon and didn’t resign until he got his new ID to retain jumpseat and health benefits. I thought it was wizard.

I remember hearing stories of people being fired for doing stuff like that, so I'd be careful about doing that for anyone that might be in that position.
 
If you can take an LOA, do that. If you can take vacation, then go to class over vacation, do that. If you can start your next job before you quit your first, do that. If you can do anything to possibly prevent this from happening to you, do that.

Nobody cares about you, as much as you.
And people need to remember a company will throw them out in the cold in a heartbeat if it benefits them. Look out for yourself and family first.
 
I remember at 9E a while ago guys took a leave with continued benefits and went to new employers without resigning. One guy was fired at the major and at 9E for doing this.

Once you’re sitting in class on day 1 at a major, you better not be employed still at your regional. Otherwise good luck to you!
 
I can’t even believe this is a topic. Why else do you think people are hesitant to leave an employer in this industry? It’s because there is a very narrow gap in which we could be hosed if our newhire class is delayed/cancelled.

Even leaving my regional to go to Virgin, I remember having a knot in my stomach as I turned in my manuals, binders, and ID. There’s a feeling of unease even though leaving as a RJ FO made absolute sense at that time and it was the right career move. Still, I felt uneasy giving up seniority, a cushion below me, and medical benefits for 1.5 months (I had paid for COBRA).


I still remember “doing the right thing” and buying a one way ticket from DTW-SFO for a Sunday to report for my Monday class. $197 (lotta money for a RJ FO), and it was 3 legs! DTW-MDW-ATL-SFO.

..... only to find out as I turned my badge in a Friday and the flight ops lady said “oh you could have kept your badge and jumpseated to SFO and then Fedex it back in this letter we provide, we’d still keep you in CASS a couple days.”

I was dumbfounded. I thought after the PSA Bae146 crash that anyone quitting an airline had to surrender their badge (and in this case removed from CASS), but I guess that’s only for someone being fired.

Anyway - point being - I took the safest route to cover my ass. And it cost me money. Bottom line, do not be employed at your major as a newhire while still employed at your regional. And most importantly, do NOT quit mid trip and just walk out. Your regional WILL tell your next employer.
 
For what it’s worth I know of a guy who left the bus side of AS to go fly the max over in iceland but when things came to a halt over there and he got furloughed he came back to AS on the proudly all boeing side. Then again I dont know if he got his seniority back...

He did but it was because he was on a leave of absence. Not a bad idea!
 
The only thing I know is at my former regional they said if you call in sick on your last day you're not rehirable. As much as I didn't wanna commute to a stand up, I stomached it.
 
The only thing I know is at my former regional they said if you call in sick on your last day you're not rehirable. As much as I didn't wanna commute to a stand up, I stomached it.
Not even your last day, if you called in at all during the last two weeks after you gave your notice. Sick, fatigue, EMER, anything.
 
If you can take an LOA, do that. If you can take vacation, then go to class over vacation, do that. If you can start your next job before you quit your first, do that. If you can do anything to possibly prevent this from happening to you, do that.

Nobody cares about you, as much as you.

It's understandable, but still frustrating sometimes how out of touch legacy pilots can be. At your very own airline, and all other legacy carriers, you would almost CERTAINLY be removed from class for trying to pull something like this.
 
I was never asked about a resignation letter back in the 1990’s.

I kind of just... uh... stopped going... for the most part but I did officially resign.

A guy in my indoc class was on vacation from Horizon and didn’t resign until he got his new ID to retain jumpseat and health benefits. I thought it was wizard.
100.0% of places I have worked have required rescission of other seniority numbers.
 
It's understandable, but still frustrating sometimes how out of touch legacy pilots can be. At your very own airline, and all other legacy carriers, you would almost CERTAINLY be removed from class for trying to pull something like this.

Yep. Last year a guy was fired from both FedEx and UAL for trying a similar stunt. It bears repeating here, as this practice has unfortunately been recommended by a couple of legacy pilots in this thread.

New hires: Do not under any circumstance start class at your new airline while still employed at your old airline. You will be fired and have your nice new life ruined.
 
Not even your last day, if you called in at all during the last two weeks after you gave your notice. Sick, fatigue, EMER, anything.
:oops: I almost did that, very thankful I didn't. The quit guide on SAPA website only said last trip.
 
It's understandable, but still frustrating sometimes how out of touch legacy pilots can be. At your very own airline, and all other legacy carriers, you would almost CERTAINLY be removed from class for trying to pull something like this.
Shrug. Ok.
 
I still remember “doing the right thing” and buying a one way ticket from DTW-SFO for a Sunday to report for my Monday class. $197 (lotta money for a RJ FO), and it was 3 legs! DTW-MDW-ATL-SFO.

..... only to find out as I turned my badge in a Friday and the flight ops lady said “oh you could have kept your badge and jumpseated to SFO and then Fedex it back in this letter we provide, we’d still keep you in CASS a couple days.”

I was dumbfounded. I thought after the PSA Bae146 crash that anyone quitting an airline had to surrender their badge (and in this case removed from CASS), but I guess that’s only for someone being fired.

I left Pinnacle in 2011 so I may be remembering this wrong, but I'm pretty sure you could only ride in the back. Jumpseat privileges ended with employment, but non rev stayed active a few days. I know I didn't pay for my flight home from DTW.
 
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