Oh, Boeing

[Maximilian_Jenius]

I'd say BCA (to include mil "derivatives") is on a different planet compared to BDS. Two totally different companies, under one umbrella. STL still takes a lot of pride in their work, and they generally get what they need. Fundamental things like what you bill your hours to are even completely different between the two. To your point, the T-7 and some recent "aftermarket" F/A-18 mods have gone a little sideways at times, and that is a cautionary tale. But i am cautiously optimistic about this one. It has been a "thing" for a while now, though not officially under contract until now. This is EMD, so the FRP cycle will be its own thing, and isn't a given (see A-12). But it is about the biggest good news for the defense side of the company since the early 1990s (which would have been MacAir). This will also get subb'd to all the other big guys. Boeing built components for the F-22, and continue to provide sustainment products. Northrop Grumman builds the whole F/A-18 aft of the wingline. That'll all shake out for the FRP contract.

What's your thoughts on the FA-XX?

 

[///AMG]

Go back to the late 90s and there is no shortage of buzz word filled negative GAO reports and congressional inquiries into the Super Hornet accusing it of being a massive failure.

Historically the most successful multirole fighter ever deployed on a carrier but it was second place at being the jet to get a cool movie with shirtless pilots playing sports, so it’s obviously a failure.


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I think the service record speaks for itself on that one honestly. It was a pretty efficient program, and IOC was as close to on time as anything in the last few decades. What it didnt bring was capability that would replace those of the Tomcat or the Intruder, which I think was the rub. No bucks, no buck rogers, as they say. 30 years later, it is a wholly different aircraft with some pretty impressive capes, but that isnt obviously what we are talking about.

 

[///AMG]

What's your thoughts on the FA-XX?

Dont know a ton about it. Was still a proposal or RFP when I was active duty and privy to those types of things. So I know what requirements they wrote for it, but I have very little info on what it has become, if it has.

 

[Minuteman]

“Boeing is seeking to withdraw an agreement to plead guilty related to a criminal fraud charge following two deadly 737 MAX crashes six years ago, The Wall Street Journal reported Monday.

Citing “people familiar with the matter,” The Wall Street Journal reported that the aerospace manufacturer is hoping to benefit from “more lenient treatment” from President Donald Trump’s Justice Department.”

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-reportedly-looks-to-back-out-of-guilty-plea-in-737-max-crashes/

We can’t effectively boycott Boeing products, and that’s a problem. This kind of activity should be expensive for them … money being the metric that seems to matter most for the company.