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Bignellyxx said:
If you’re not going to be driving in Germany any time a sports car is kind of pointless.
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Owning a sports car in North Dakota or any other prairie state is worthless - this is probably why your opinion is skewed, since I am guess you love North Dakota so much (nothing wrong with that :confused:). Owning a sports car in Colorado, California, Arizona, Connecticut, New Hampshire, etc, where there are actually windy twisty rural roads is why people in these states buy sports cars. Roads that actually have curves (required by the landscape) warrant the desire for a high end sports car that handles well... IMO going fast around a tight corner is more exhilerating than hunting a deer :D (to me at least) LOL...and don't say I can't compare it because I used to go pheasant and duck hunting with my dad all the time - yes we hunt in California too.

...and what, going hunting a few times per year requires you to lug around a bulky gas hogging truck for the other 11 months when you aren't hunting? Unless you love trucks just because you like the looks of them (which is fine), it doesn't make sense to say that you should own a truck as a sole daily driver for using it 11 months out of the year for a utility that a car can provide. Don't get me wrong...when I own a boat I'm gonna want a truck to pull it, but it's not going to be my daily driver.
 
CaptainChris87 said:
I just love it, its history, passion, and innovation, I can go on and on, but read some stuff about them, they have a memoabilia of their history and cars on sale at barnes and noble if not just wikipedia or google them.
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you left out, "because mommy and daddy bought me one"
 
Jace
First I'm not in love with North Dakota. I'm just not as bitter as the average UND aviation student.

Second the whole point of my post is just to point out that trucks are not pointless like some people believe. I just don't understand why people ridicule others for owning one. I think a land cruiser is the worst vehicle next to the H2. (personally if i were given one i would beat the hell out of it anywhere i could take it) I don't ridicule people who buy these. If you have the money to buy a car you want, buy it. North Dakotas difference from other places is that they elect to spend 35 grand on a pick up truck as opposed to 35 grand on an Audi.
 
Bignellyxx said:
Jace
First I'm not in love with North Dakota. I'm just not as bitter as the average UND aviation student.

Second the whole point of my post is just to point out that trucks are not pointless like some people believe. I just don't understand why people ridicule others for owning one. I think a land cruiser is the worst vehicle next to the H2. (personally if i were given one i would beat the hell out of it anywhere i could take it) I don't ridicule people who buy these. If you have the money to buy a car you want, buy it. North Dakotas difference from other places is that they elect to spend 35 grand on a pick up truck as opposed to 35 grand on an Audi.
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You're missing everything that I've been trying to explain. Look at the capability of each new generation of trucks and suvs as they come out compared to stuff from the 70s and 80s. They flat out suck in comparison. If you want a little bit of trivia here, a 71 studdabaker could tow 12500 pounds and was a mere half ton truck. To my knowlege, only the Ford, Chevy, Dodge 3/4 and 1 ton and soon to be new Toyota 3/4 ton trucks can do that. While the capability is thankfully slowly coming back, they're still inferior to 70s and 80s trucks. There is only one reason for this like I've been saying over and over and over. People don't buy trucks for utility as much as they used to. Midwest or not, people buy trucks and SUVs more for show just as much as anywhere else. My insecurity theory might be wack, but the rest of what I'm saying is dead on.

I agree with what you're saying about sports cars and I apply exactly the same thing I've been saying about trucks in this thread to sports cars.
 
UAL747400 said:
I agree with what you're saying about sports cars and I apply exactly the same thing I've been saying about trucks in this thread to sports cars.
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Prime example: My dad's girlfriend's C5 Corvette with an automatic tranny... kinda pointless to have such a capable car when she only drives it to work to the hair salon as a hair stylist. :D
 
UAL747400 said:
You're missing everything that I've been trying to explain. Look at the capability of each new generation of trucks and suvs as they come out compared to stuff from the 70s and 80s. They flat out suck in comparison. If you want a little bit of trivia here, a 71 studdabaker could tow 12500 pounds and was a mere half ton truck. To my knowlege, only the Ford, Chevy, Dodge 3/4 and 1 ton and soon to be new Toyota 3/4 ton trucks can do that. While the capability is thankfully slowly coming back, they're still inferior to 70s and 80s trucks. There is only one reason for this like I've been saying over and over and over. People don't buy trucks for utility as much as they used to. Midwest or not, people buy trucks and SUVs more for show just as much as anywhere else. My insecurity theory might be wack, but the rest of what I'm saying is dead on.

I agree with what you're saying about sports cars and I apply exactly the same thing I've been saying about trucks in this thread to sports cars.
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I agree, People who buy a truck on function are probably more of a dying breed. Most people in general wether they know it or not buy a vehicle based on their own image. Function is probably something they push to the back burner.

I think your post was really trying to say bring back the Chevy Scottsdale. Im pretty sure a scottsdale can survive napalm but can only be slowly taken down with salt.
 
JaceTheAce said:
Prime example: My dad's girlfriend's C5 Corvette with an automatic tranny... kinda pointless to have such a capable car when she only drives it to work to the hair salon as a hair stylist. :D
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I agree but it does have a purpose. I saw the World Series MVP on Leno the week after he won it. They gave him a Corvette but he couldn't drive a stick. Chevy was watching out for this guy when they made an automatic vette
 
Hahaha, as much as I love conflict in these forums, I have to admit I do believe there are people who like the way trucks look. Why like them? I don't know...
Whether that's the case in GFK is beyond me. I think it's more of a trend than anything else. Old men buy ugly trucks just to fit in the GFK society, otherwise they're not accepted.
I don't discard Tom and Jace's theory of why they buy them, however. That's still quite a possibility.
 
Bignellyxx said:
I agree but it does have a purpose. I saw the World Series MVP on Leno the week after he won it. They gave him a Corvette but he couldn't drive a stick. Chevy was watching out for this guy when they made an automatic vette
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Actually, the with the amount of power the C5 and C6 'Vettes are putting to the ground, the auto-tranny really isn't hurting them at all. If you're not used to the way that car delivers power, it actually might help you to have both hands on the wheel. Some people are purists. I've driven both and liked both.

Now...wait'll you see the body kit for a C6 that makes it look like a '62....unbefreakinlieveable.
 
AngelFuree said:
Hahaha, as much as I love conflict in these forums, I have to admit I do believe there are people who like the way trucks look. Why like them? I don't know...
Whether that's the case in GFK is beyond me. I think it's more of a trend than anything else. Old men buy ugly trucks just to fit in the GFK society, otherwise they're not accepted.
I don't discard Tom and Jace's theory of why they buy them, however. That's still quite a possibility.
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I'm a truck enthusiast almost as much as I'm into cars, which is why I'm so vocal on the matter here. I like how trucks look too. The new ones look awsome, but I want them to retain their abilities without having to do much modification.
 
UAL747400 said:
I'm a different kind of car enthusiast. I'm more for performance and function or weight adding comfort and luxury. However, I will own a Mercedes 190E with the 2.3 liter Ford Cosworth 16valve engine someday. Those are friggen sweet!
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get the 500E the predecessor of the E500 they were made from 1986-1995 W124 series. made several autobahn records.
 
CaptainChris87 said:
get the 500E the predecessor of the E500 they were made from 1986-1995 W124 series. made several autobahn records.
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The 190E with the cosworth engine is better on a race track. It was built solely to rival the M3 in... I forgot which racing series. I've never been interested in anything mercedes has made past the early 80s. The SLR turned my head when it came out, but it's still not on my list of stuff I would consider buying.
 
JaceTheAce said:
Prime example: My dad's girlfriend's C5 Corvette with an automatic tranny... kinda pointless to have such a capable car when she only drives it to work to the hair salon as a hair stylist. :D
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No kidding, especially because in normal city driving you probably never have to go above 1500 RPMs. Heck, you could probably just leave it in 6th gear if it was a manual. That poor LS2 would just be screaming at the top of it's lungs to go to 7 grand just once. Poor engine. :(
 
Bignellyxx said:
I agree, People who buy a truck on function are probably more of a dying breed. Most people in general wether they know it or not buy a vehicle based on their own image. Function is probably something they push to the back burner.

I think your post was really trying to say bring back the Chevy Scottsdale. Im pretty sure a scottsdale can survive napalm but can only be slowly taken down with salt.
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those are my favorite. something like 78-91 they were produced. i will own one some day
 
UAL747400 said:
No kidding, especially because in normal city driving you probably never have to go above 1500 RPMs. Heck, you could probably just leave it in 6th gear if it was a manual. That poor LS2 would just be screaming at the top of it's lungs to go to 7 grand just once. Poor engine. :(
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That's what my dad is for :D ...to clear the cobwebs out of the engine. He tries to be nice to the car though because it's his girlfriend's. :D
 
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