Off airport landing at MLB 2/29/2012

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I'm hearing reports of three fatalities.

Anyone have any news or links about it?
 
Definitely NOT a landing! Two killed. Crashed on the Melbourne International airport property. Nothing else yet.

Bad deal......
 
Three people have died according to rescue personnel who first came upon the wreckage of a plane that crashed into the woods west of the runways of Melbourne International Airport today shortly after 5 p.m.
Reports are that the cockpit is crumbled and a request has been made for equipment to assist in extricating the bodies.
Rescue crews search the woods west of Wickham Road and north of NASA Boulevard, then expanded to search wooded areas east of Wickham before locating the small plane an hour after witnesses reported a plane going down hard below the treeline.
"I saw a plane go down," said Franklin Duran, 52, of Melbourne. "Completely nosedive."
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http://www.floridatoday.com/article...?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Home&nclick_check=1

Everyone from FIT ok?
 
Thanks for the info. I agree, a crash isn't a landing. At first I heard all sorts of misinformed news reports. Collision, landed in the grass short of the runway....

Just spoke to a friend/ former student/ current instructor up that way and the information he got was that it was a SR22 and not a FIT airplane with a textbook approach to landing stall.

Thanks again for the link, 1B9.
 
By the time I posted earlier, they had only found two. BAD post-crash fire. No chute?

Sad.......
 
I spoke with one of my coworkers who witnessed this firsthand. This is his account and not mine. He was on final when this particular aircraft came in on a tight base and cut him off. My coworker saw it coming and started a go around. The other airplane banked fairly steep turning final, and then the controller started yelling at him. At that point he banked even more steeply and went into a stall and spun. Now I haven't been down to Melbourne yet but it's widely known that they're controllers are known for being on the aggressive side. I have an instrument student who absolutely refuses to let me take him there because of a bad experience he had with the tower as a student pilot. My coworker was very upset he witnessed it, saying that the whole thing could have been avoided if calmer heads would have prevailed. I guess they will review the tapes and see what happened from there.
 
Guess we'll see what comes out of this, detail-wise. Hopefully some good learning.
 
at1024 said:
I spoke with one of my coworkers who witnessed this firsthand. This is his account and not mine. He was on final when this particular aircraft came in on a tight base and cut him off. My coworker saw it coming and started a go around. The other airplane banked fairly steep turning final, and then the controller started yelling at him. At that point he banked even more steeply and went into a stall and spun. Now I haven't been down to Melbourne yet but it's widely known that they're controllers are known for being on the aggressive side. I have an instrument student who absolutely refuses to let me take him there because of a bad experience he had with the tower as a student pilot.
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I went to FIT and did all of my training out of MLB. In my experience the controllers there are good but when they start getting REALLY busy or get overloaded they definitely get cranky in a hurry.
 
I know all the controllers at that tower personally (not trying to sound like a know-it-all btw), and I promise you that if they yell at you, it's because they want you to remember the mistake you made, and that's it. It's not to make you feel bad. They're very accommodating, and allow tours of the tower all the time. For the guy who's student doesn't want you to fly him there, you guys should go up and meet them. It's a lot easier than just making assumptions about their character and the quality of their service.
 
Roger Roger said:
Well, hopefully, but from the sounds of it it'll just be another base to final stall spin. Don't know what more we can learn from those.
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Teach spin recovery rather than spin avoidance at the primary level? Not that you can recover from a base to final stall/spin necessarily, but at least you'd get to see what happens if you push it that far. I know I know, :deadhorse:...

Edit: RIP to the pilots, and sorry your friend got a front row seat to that accident on final. Pretty much sucks all around. :(
 
How does a voice on the radio cause you to stop flying the plane? Sorry, I can't imagine any way to blame this on a controller.
 
inigo88 said:
Teach spin recovery rather than spin avoidance at the primary level? Not that you can recover from a base to final stall/spin necessarily, but at least you'd get to see what happens if you push it that far. I know I know, :deadhorse:...

Edit: RIP to the pilots, and sorry your friend got a front row seat to that accident on final. Pretty much sucks all around. :(
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...but the vast majority of stall spin accidents involve CFIs, the one group required to undergo spin training. I won't be surprised if we hear a CFI was on this airplane. Indicates to me there is a problem with the current stall/spin CFI training.
 
Blackhawk said:
...but the vast majority of stall spin accidents involve CFIs, the one group required to undergo spin training. I won't be surprised if we hear a CFI was on this airplane. Indicates to me there is a problem with the current stall/spin CFI training.
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Wow! I had not heard that statistic before, that's crazy.
 
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