Note to self: Do Not Fly on any Indian Airlines.
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This showed up all over bookface and a majority of my pilot friends were all "rabble rabble that's crazy!" about it, but I don't get why this is any less of a (likely) hatchet job of scaremonger reporting as any of the aviation reporting that goes on on the U.S. I see the article mentions MH370 quite a bit, because that's totally relevant to the headline. 
BravoHotel
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I recall a thread awhile back where someone found a 152 with engine running but no occupant. In the adjacent building were students from that that geographical region who were watching TV. When queried it was stated they were building time. I'm trying to find that thread.
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That was probably my post, except they were smoking cigs and there were two engines running; they were building multi time. One problem... plane had an air hobbs.
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GypsyPilot
Mohawk Town
I really don't know what the deal is with the culture in India and aviation. I instructed at a very busy airport in FL in 2007-08, and we had a school next to us that specialized in teaching Indian students.
It was at times frightening. They lost many aircraft, several of their people were killed in numerous incidents, I was almost killed in a near mid-air from one of their instruction flights, etc. It was chaotic, and really nothing surprises me. How there aren't more incidents in their aviation industry is baffling.
It was at times frightening. They lost many aircraft, several of their people were killed in numerous incidents, I was almost killed in a near mid-air from one of their instruction flights, etc. It was chaotic, and really nothing surprises me. How there aren't more incidents in their aviation industry is baffling.
WestIndian425
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It's a lot more than just aviation. There is huge black markets in India for just about everything because of the poverty there.
While I haven't seen the occupants leave the airplane, I am familiar with several instances of flying an entire cross country trip at max power in the runup area...
HVYMETALDRVR
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Roger Roger
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I dunno man, everything I've heard from people flying over there is that it's every bit as bad as the fearmongering and maybe worse.This showed up all over bookface and a majority of my pilot friends were all "rabble rabble that's crazy!" about it, but I don't get why this is any less of a (likely) hatchet job of scaremonger reporting as any of the aviation reporting that goes on on the U.S. I see the article mentions MH370 quite a bit, because that's totally relevant to the headline.
BravoHotel
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Why would you do that? My way of thinking makes that seem really dumb.
They are not confident (skilled) enough in their abilities to complete the entire flight, so they just keep the hobbs/tach going on the ground.
Roger Roger
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Their culture.
HVYMETALDRVR
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Years ago I met a Fed when I lived in Miami who told me one night they were doing ramp checks at KOPF. He said they found a 152 in the corner of Miami Executive's ramp at about 2AM with the engine running and a couple Indians sleeping in it. I was surprised though, when he said he knew what was going on there was nothing he could do, just tapped the window to wake them up and told them to be on their way.
Meh, I taught them for years and while a lot of them were good pilots and I respected, a lot of them were spoiled rich kids that thought they were entitled to fly big jets. In fact, a lot of them already had high paying jobs in the right seat of an AB waiting back home, all they had to do was survive and get they're licenses. I didn't matter how many check ride busts they had or how many hours it took, in many cases the Indian government was subsidizing they're training. Must have been nice.
Meh, I taught them for years and while a lot of them were good pilots and I respected, a lot of them were spoiled rich kids that thought they were entitled to fly big jets. In fact, a lot of them already had high paying jobs in the right seat of an AB waiting back home, all they had to do was survive and get they're licenses. I didn't matter how many check ride busts they had or how many hours it took, in many cases the Indian government was subsidizing they're training. Must have been nice.
jwp_145
GhostRider in the Sky
I have about a thousand hours of training Indian students, and I've found that their culture is based around the acceptableness of lying as a means to get what you want. It's ok to them.
Some of my students though were excellent aviators, but the DGCA is SO CORRUPT that, even if the student is serious and a good pilot and obtains all his FAA licenses, once he goes back home to India to convert all of them, tey have to BRIBE people within the DGCA just to get paperwork put through... that goes back to the culture of lying and manipulation... they are all constantly trying to get over on each other in whatever way possible. I spent 6 months over in that part of the world and it is just astonishing that they think it is acceptable to basically hold a needed service for ransom until you pay them a bribe.
Some of my students though were excellent aviators, but the DGCA is SO CORRUPT that, even if the student is serious and a good pilot and obtains all his FAA licenses, once he goes back home to India to convert all of them, tey have to BRIBE people within the DGCA just to get paperwork put through... that goes back to the culture of lying and manipulation... they are all constantly trying to get over on each other in whatever way possible. I spent 6 months over in that part of the world and it is just astonishing that they think it is acceptable to basically hold a needed service for ransom until you pay them a bribe.