No more hanger parties

[ozone]

I, for one, am in favor of the new rule. Last year, I went wandering about 21D during a CAP pancake breakfast. I saw several hangars filled to the brim with junk. For example, I saw one guy, sitting outside his hangar in his lounge chair with an O2 tank next to him: 2 planes missing their engines, boxes, several cars in various states of disrepair, piles of furniture, plastic stuff like lawnchairs, and so on....it looked like a bloody storage locker gone bad due to hoarding. Next to him was a similar hangar. All this at a MAC facility where hangars are in short supply and pricey (like $80,000). I hope someone will come and bust these hoarders and allow actual planes to be stored again.

 

[Roger Roger]

I, for one, am in favor of the new rule. Last year, I went wandering about 21D during a CAP pancake breakfast. I saw several hangars filled to the brim with junk. For example, I saw one guy, sitting outside his hangar in his lounge chair with an O2 tank next to him: 2 planes missing their engines, boxes, several cars in various states of disrepair, piles of furniture, plastic stuff like lawnchairs, and so on....it looked like a bloody storage locker gone bad due to hoarding. Next to him was a similar hangar. All this at a MAC facility where hangars are in short supply and pricey (like $80,000). I hope someone will come and bust these hoarders and allow actual planes to be stored again.

I'm as much about individual rights as the next guy but for serials airports are for airplanes and airplane stuff. Our airport has a few similar hangars.

 

[Boyington]

My local airport has a 4-5 year waiting list for hangars, and some just house old tractors and/or cars. This should give many airports the authority to kick guys like this out, and blame the FAA.

 

[Roger Roger]

So if you can't have welders how do you weld your airplane?

Hopefully whoever enforces this will use some reason on that sort of thing. I don't think that's what is being targeted though.

 

[gliderboy]

There's a similar brouhaha going on at our airport. As with most things of this nature it was caused by people abusing their privileges. It starts out with some guy working on motorcycles in the hangar (and blasting them around the airport). Then some bright spark imagines how much money he'll save by living in his hangar, and before you know it there are drunks and druggies roaming about at all hours of the night. The more enterprising among them build lofts and living quarters in their hangars. A car mechanic and metal artist or two move in. Before you know it you're living in a Mad Max world.

Personally, I rather like that world, but you can't blame the airport authorities for cracking down on it. Especially when when all this is going on at a major international airport!

When this starts to eat at you that's a sign that it's time to pack your bags and head out'a Dodge.

 

[Bigey]

I know one city that houses all their SWAT and all of their toys in a hangar on an airport.

Did we work together?

 

[CFI A&P]

I, for one, am in favor of the new rule. Last year, I went wandering about 21D during a CAP pancake breakfast. I saw several hangars filled to the brim with junk. For example, I saw one guy, sitting outside his hangar in his lounge chair with an O2 tank next to him: 2 planes missing their engines, boxes, several cars in various states of disrepair, piles of furniture, plastic stuff like lawnchairs, and so on....it looked like a bloody storage locker gone bad due to hoarding. Next to him was a similar hangar. All this at a MAC facility where hangars are in short supply and pricey (like $80,000). I hope someone will come and bust these hoarders and allow actual planes to be stored again.

I agree with you, use hangars at airports for aircraft. However, my municipality and I would think others, already have that in their lease agreements and it isn't enforced. So it'll be another regulation on top of existing regulation that isn't enforced. Today I was out on the golf cart and looked at the open hangars. Boats, storage units piled high, motorhomes... I saw everything but airplanes in those hangars. "Oh, they are probably out flying." Is what you would think. None of them had the shadow of an aircraft in there. Just none aviation crap on top of non aviation crap. The county doesn't enforce it's own rule. If you're building or storing your aircraft and also have a motorcycle or extra car under a cover - I'm cool with that. However the people that are just using it as commercial warehouses, that's a problem.

 

[SpiraMirabilis]

The new rule is acutaly an improvement over what is currently on the books, but rarely if ever enforced.

An old couch, fridge for your beer, and maybe even a motorcycle and temporeary functions like hangar parties are not the problem that the FAA is trying to fix. The city who was using a hangar at the airport as their city vehicle auto shop and the other city who had converted another hangar to a warehouse to store school books is the problem.

The EAA is trying to get the FAA to ease up on the interpertation that a hangar should only be used for final assembly of homebuilt airplanes, as opposed to the entire but this is hardly the homebuilders apocylopse. It's a really bad idea to do most of your building at the airport anyway, your home garage is much better.

You should build in your garage as long as possible, this eliminates having to drive to the airport which is easy to make excuses not to do.

 

[CFI A&P]

You should build in your garage as long as possible, this eliminates having to drive to the airport which is easy to make excuses not to do.

One of Budd Davisson's tips. The closer the project is to you, the easier it is to work on. Probability of completion goes up exponentially.