No Callsign?

I could argue that people stating their full N number take up as much radio space as people saying "Any traffic". It's DANGEROUS!!! mwaahaha
 
MikeOH58 said:
I could argue that people stating their full N number take up as much radio space as people saying "Any traffic". It's DANGEROUS!!! mwaahaha
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It is also totally unnecessary. It is one thing for student pilots getting used to radio phraseology. But if you are the only glider/taildragger/blimp in the pattern, brevity should be your goal.
 
I use type and abbreviated N number but I think its way more important to have good SA and be exact about where one is and what you intend to do.
 
ppragman said:
If even that. Village Point, Two point Five, Gustavus.
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I can't help but laugh. We worked with a dude who wouldn't say anything en route, but would give a ten minute radio broadcast on departure. I busted his balls about that over beers, many times. In the same note, I really miss ADS-B and Capstone and the people.

On the same note, I'd do a flight or two and not say anything after "___________ Cleared for takeoff 8 at Charlie"

The radio doesn't alleviate your eyeballs.
 
fholbert said:
What does the AIM say one should do? We all need to fly by the same standard.
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Exactly how does the non-standard of a pilot calling in with position, type and color negatively affect you as another pilot when compared to position, type and N-Number?

When one looks at AIM non-regulatory recommendations I think that one needs to look at them in context. For example, the AIM tells us to call in 10 miles out. Are you suggesting that it would be bad to call 15 miles out because it's "non-standard?"
 
It's simple, if I hear someone I know on the frequency then I will ask how the kids and wife is doing and how life is in general. I prefer this method because it doesn't use any of my mobile anytime minutes. Also, If someone answers the unicom, then I will see if they can pull my truck around for me. I also wait until I am inside the FBO to cancel. That's how I roll...
 
drunkenbeagle said:
It is also totally unnecessary. It is one thing for student pilots getting used to radio phraseology. But if you are the only glider/taildragger/blimp in the pattern, brevity should be your goal.
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Safety is my goal...I am flying a million + dollar airplane filled with some pretty important people in the back, but most importantly, I am on board, and the positives far outweigh the negatives...As a matter of fact, I can't find any negatives.
 
MikeOH58 said:
Safety is my goal...I am flying a million + dollar airplane filled with some pretty important people in the back, but most importantly, I am on board, and the positives far outweigh the negatives...As a matter of fact, I can't find any negatives.
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Edit: I can't find any negatives regarding "Any Traffic"...I also can't find any negatives about stating N number, I just think it's utterly stupid and worthless.
 
Ya'll say what color you are at night too?

For some silly reason we take a CAT D approach jet into uncontrolled fields from time to time. When I do (it's mostly at night after tower has closed) it's Callsign, Type, location (in distance and time if I'm more than 5 miles away) and intentions.
 
ppragman said:
Lol, some times I don't even give that. Best bet, type, location, intentions. Or, "Cessna 206, Eldred Rock, 2500' for Haines" is miles better than "123AB is Over Eldred Rock at 2500."
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I always loved Sam's radio calls: "Annnnd we're at Sherman point goin to Juneau annnnd we're at 2000"
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
When one looks at AIM non-regulatory recommendations I think that one needs to look at them in context. For example, the AIM tells us to call in 10 miles out. Are you suggesting that it would be bad to call 15 miles out because it's "non-standard?"
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When there is an accident and you're not in compliance with the AIM you or your estate will be found at fault. Assuming people were injured or killed and lawsuits filed the process server will be on your doorstop.

In your example call at 15 miles, make a 2nd call at 10 miles.
 
esa17 said:
I always loved Sam's radio calls: "Annnnd we're at Sherman point goin to Juneau annnnd we're at 2000"
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Yeah, or not so cool was a WardAir stealth beaver popping out of the mist crossing Chatham from Crescent Lake to Point Howard.
 
ppragman said:
Yeah, or not so cool was a WardAir stealth beaver popping out of the mist crossing Chatham from Crescent Lake to Point Howard.
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Their radios didn't work in the air, Talair's didn't work on the ground. It's the darndest thing.
 
BobDDuck said:
For some silly reason we take a CAT D approach jet into uncontrolled fields from time to time. When I do (it's mostly at night after tower has closed) it's Callsign, Type, location (in distance and time if I'm more than 5 miles away) and intentions.
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Funny... we do the same thing! :D


I generally start monitoring the CTAF frequency about 10-15 minutes out and begin making position reports with callsign, type, and location (cardinal direction and distance) when we get within 15-20 miles.
 
Sometimes it make me want to pull out my last hair.
me: type, callsign left downwind 25. airport
123spwithin a second of my transmission) "wun two three shugah pop, ten mile final 25, any traffic in the area please advise.
me: "type callsign, 123 shugah pop how do you hear?
123sp Loud and clear.
did you hear my last transmission?
affirm
Well I'm still on downwind.
Me: "left base 25"
123sp "wun two three shughah pop six mile final ATITAPA.
Me: Are you hard of hearing or what? I just reported left base, I'm still on left base, is there anything else you want me to advise you of?
 
ppragman said:
Lol, some times I don't even give that. Best bet, type, location, intentions. Or, "Cessna 206, Eldred Rock, 2500' for Haines" is miles better than "123AB is Over Eldred Rock at 2500."
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Yeah right, like you guys ever even say the aircraft. "Eldred twenny-five hunnert gointa Haines" is more like it.
 
The worst is when I flew into Corvalis, OR about a year ago.

Did the all familiar procedures into an uncontrolled, fairly busy but no probs.

I make my final turn and maybe 200' above and a quarter mile ahead of me was a 172. No radios, no callouts, nothing. I end up kinda chewing the guy out "172 on final approach why are you not making call outs etc, etc, etc."

Walk into the terminal telling the same story and I get "oh that's bucktooth willy, he has no radios, don't worry about him." My face was RED...

Not that this has anything to do with the original post, I've been trying to vent that story for a while now.

And I always make my N # callout. If you can see what color my plane is, you're too close.
 
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