New Wreckage found in AF447 crash

Fly782 said:
Off topic but theres a ship that sank in lake michigan that apparently has the captain still in the wheel house, apparently in the same condition after like 30 years. I am sure the water down that deep is similar to fresh water in which it doesnt decompose things as fast. No clue what I am talking about.
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That's why Lake Superior is know as the lake that doesn't give up the dead. The very cold water all year prevents the decomposition process and keeps the bodies from floating to the surface.
 
Mark815 said:
wow that's crazy. Do you know when\how this is going to be done? Has it ever been done before so long after the disaster(either ship wreck or aviation)?
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That documentary that I mentioned a few posts back is about the raising of a wrecked sub in 15,000' of water, 6 years after it went down.
 
SteveC said:
Yeah, well, their justice system is set up a little bit differently than ours and if I recall correctly that is a typical step in the fact finding process. Then again, they might just be idiots. :dunno:
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These are the same guys that convicted an airline and mechanics of manslaughter for the Concorde crash!

So I'm leaning toward sthe "idiot" statement
 
canadian_atc said:
Those fanblafes don't appear to have been turning at impact... Guess but...
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I wouldn't expect those things to be turning, anyway. Those are struts that attach the engine core (compressor section, combustion chamber and turbine section) to the fan case. The area in front of the struts is where the low-pressure compressor would be and, also, where the outlet guide vanes for the fan would be. In front of that area is where you'd find the fan. Looks like all that stuff got sheared off and left just the struts and the core.

A good guess, but, since you are a controller trying to guess about airplane stuff, it would naturally be incorrect. :D
 
undflyboy06 said:
That's why Lake Superior is know as the lake that doesn't give up the dead. The very cold water all year prevents the decomposition process and keeps the bodies from floating to the surface.
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Like the Edmund Fitzgerald!

Who ever posted that info about the K 129 documentary, I watched it today and it is very good! Thanks!
 
coa787 said:
I wouldn't expect those things to be turning, anyway. Those are struts that attach the engine core (compressor section, combustion chamber and turbine section) to the fan case. The area in front of the struts is where the low-pressure compressor would be and, also, where the outlet guide vanes for the fan would be. In front of that area is where you'd find the fan. Looks like all that stuff got sheared off and left just the struts and the core.

A good guess, but, since you are a controller trying to guess about airplane stuff, it would naturally be incorrect. :D
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But but but.. i fly Cessnas toooo!!

Anywho, i see what you mean...my mistake!
 
Just out of curiosity what is your take on it? I talked to quite a few APA safety folks about it and would like to compare thoughts.
 
Yes, the boat that will conduct everything has been selected : it's the "Ile de Sein", a boat that belongs to Alcatel-Lucent. It will use a Remote Operated Vehicule to bring everything back up, plane debris and bodies. Everything should be brought back to surface within a month. The entire operation is managed by the BEA and the French Government.
 
Have they found most of the aircraft? (Something on scale of TWA800) ?

Or just some large sections that the pictures show?
 
Apparently a very large part of the airplane is still intact which would indicate that the aircraft hit the water at a very shallow angle.
 
Fly782 said:
Off topic but theres a ship that sank in lake michigan that apparently has the captain still in the wheel house, apparently in the same condition after like 30 years. I am sure the water down that deep is similar to fresh water in which it doesnt decompose things as fast. No clue what I am talking about.
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Also a United 727-100 down there somewhere that was never found, but seemingly few people have heard about it. I wonder if any further efforts will ever be made to recover the wreckage and if the bodies inside are still intact.
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19650816-0

It's crazy they found the wreckage at the depth. Would the CVR still be any good if recovered after 2 years under water?
 
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