New Student Fall of 08

the_dmn8tr said:
As for the check....check your bank records to see if it has been cashed.

As for time in 323, I am going to need about 7, so I am looking forward to either Ashland or Rapid City. I would go home, but I don't feel like taking a warrior (because it is cheaper) for a 5-6 hour flight.
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The trip to Ashland is nice, the airport was completely empty when I got there...and it said on AirNav that they have full service fuel etc, I had to fuel it myself. The airport overall is pretty nice, next to some trees and the lake nearby. It is just completely deserted thought. The flight to it was awesome though, and if you do go to it make sure you stop at sky harbor. Totally worth it.

Oh and watch out for meat missiles when near Duluth. They were dropping skydivers when I was passing through. :D
 
av8or91 said:
So that extra 4 dollars an hour is for instructors who work more?
***STUDENTS BEWARE***

Im not saying that all flight instructors are dishonest but I have been overcharged by some instructors more than I can count especially during briefings. Students,, keep track of time and dont be afraid to object to what the CFI writes down on the ground log. I like to be very open during briefings and say the time we start and the time we stop, its easy for an instructor to tack on extra .1, .2 ,.3, These numbers may be small but after a few briefings or even flights, these times add up and only cost you more money. Just something to keep in mind.:)
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I would say though you are correct in making sure you get charged the correct amount by your Instructor,it does not match with what you saying because of a few things. The majority of instructors do not even qualify for the "additional compensation". It is only for full time employees and well majority of us are part time. Even though I have five students I am not considered full time so there fore, I am not entitled to the additional compenstation. ( for those UND instructors who read this, I have five finish ups and my lead does not consider them continual work yet even the ones on there stage checks who took a winter break have come back needing a good deal of re-training, go figure...) Also UND keeps a close eye on things but if you feel you instructor was doing unecessary charging of your account you can always go and talk to there lead. There lead will discuss with you and your instructor about how they charge you. UND has found people overcharging in the past and they were dealt with immediatly. The $4 is used not only for "additional compensation" but also instructor meetings. The spring workshop alone cost UND aerospace $13,000 to just have every line instructor there. We are not even talking about how much money we lost due to aircraft sitting in the hangar. The $4 dollars helps cover all of that. As far as comparing other school instructor rates UND is still very competitive.( I have friends who teach at ERAU, Purdue)

AS far as going to part 61 training as I saw in a earlier thread, its all about flexability of your time and what kind of pilot does this FBO, flight school, or training academy produce. I will say that you can go to a non-aviation school and get your degree in bussiness and get your ratings on the side and be fine and dandy. I have done alot of training in part 61 and have instructed in part 61 and can tell you its hit or miss as far as your training goes. If you find a good instructor with a good FBO behind it then you will recieve adequate training. But if you get a not so good instructor and a bad FBO behind it you will suffer later on in your professional career. Now 141 is very rigid but is designed to get you through your ratings and certificates in a reasonable amount of time where in part 61 your go as you please. UND may have its faults and trust me they are there, but in a whole UND prepares you for a professional career in aviation. The Commercial Avit program prepares you how to survive ground school and how to approach flying a transport category aircraft for a type rating. I know some people will disagree with me but that is the plain truth. I am glad to have graduated from UND and feel I got a good education and awesome degree. It may not be as "great" as a bussiness degree but I can still go to a corportation and work in the finance department since a bachelor degree is a bachelor degree.

P.S. I know that a bussiness degree has many facets and that a person with a bussiness degree is far more knowledgeable than a person with out one but the point is a college degree is a college degree.

-Farva
 
Farva said:
I would say though you are correct in making sure you get charged the correct amount by your Instructor,it does not match with what you saying because of a few things. The majority of instructors do not even qualify for the "additional compensation". It is only for full time employees and well majority of us are part time. Even though I have five students I am not considered full time so there fore, I am not entitled to the additional compenstation. ( for those UND instructors who read this, I have five finish ups and my lead does not consider them continual work yet even the ones on there stage checks who took a winter break have come back needing a good deal of re-training, go figure...) Also UND keeps a close eye on things but if you feel you instructor was doing unecessary charging of your account you can always go and talk to there lead. There lead will discuss with you and your instructor about how they charge you. UND has found people overcharging in the past and they were dealt with immediatly. The $4 is used not only for "additional compensation" but also instructor meetings. The spring workshop alone cost UND aerospace $13,000 to just have every line instructor there. We are not even talking about how much money we lost due to aircraft sitting in the hangar. The $4 dollars helps cover all of that. As far as comparing other school instructor rates UND is still very competitive.( I have friends who teach at ERAU, Purdue)

AS far as going to part 61 training as I saw in a earlier thread, its all about flexability of your time and what kind of pilot does this FBO, flight school, or training academy produce. I will say that you can go to a non-aviation school and get your degree in bussiness and get your ratings on the side and be fine and dandy. I have done alot of training in part 61 and have instructed in part 61 and can tell you its hit or miss as far as your training goes. If you find a good instructor with a good FBO behind it then you will recieve adequate training. But if you get a not so good instructor and a bad FBO behind it you will suffer later on in your professional career. Now 141 is very rigid but is designed to get you through your ratings and certificates in a reasonable amount of time where in part 61 your go as you please. UND may have its faults and trust me they are there, but in a whole UND prepares you for a professional career in aviation. The Commercial Avit program prepares you how to survive ground school and how to approach flying a transport category aircraft for a type rating. I know some people will disagree with me but that is the plain truth. I am glad to have graduated from UND and feel I got a good education and awesome degree. It may not be as "great" as a bussiness degree but I can still go to a corportation and work in the finance department since a bachelor degree is a bachelor degree.

P.S. I know that a bussiness degree has many facets and that a person with a bussiness degree is far more knowledgeable than a person with out one but the point is a college degree is a college degree.

-Farva
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actually the bonus thing is for anyone who manages to meet the hourly criteria over the course of the semester, not just for full time instructors
 
True there is no rule that says you must be a full time person in order to recieve the bonus but it is relativly difficult if you are a part time person. Plus it all depends on what your lead feel regardless. I got told that I could not teach CFII till I got 100 hours dual given yet my own CFII instructor had only 6 hours dual given when he taught me. There is alot of weird stuff like that going on lately. For instance a MEI who does not have a 100hr dual given but yet she has here MEI and had 4 multi students. Got them pulled away because she did not have the dual given time. Stuff like that can and will always pull up. But you right there is not rule in the book about who can and cant be able to enter the bonus but part timers are unlikely to achieve such contact time unlike there full time counterparts. have a good day BuickCFI hope this weather gets better.
 
juxtapilot said:
Though if they sent an email, they would have record of it when UND screws something up again. :)

Calling would be quick and easy, but they might want to be sure they have a record of it.

I should add, I had to send in my app 3 times before they finally "got it."
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they replied back to me today

"file is now in process and you should receive a letter shortly on your '
status."

Can not wait until I get my enrollment letter :nana2:
 
How many instructors are working for UND now. On average how many leave each year? How many students are enrolled in the flight program?
 
Farva said:
True there is no rule that says you must be a full time person in order to recieve the bonus but it is relativly difficult if you are a part time person. Plus it all depends on what your lead feel regardless. I got told that I could not teach CFII till I got 100 hours dual given yet my own CFII instructor had only 6 hours dual given when he taught me. There is alot of weird stuff like that going on lately. For instance a MEI who does not have a 100hr dual given but yet she has here MEI and had 4 multi students. Got them pulled away because she did not have the dual given time. Stuff like that can and will always pull up. But you right there is not rule in the book about who can and cant be able to enter the bonus but part timers are unlikely to achieve such contact time unlike there full time counterparts. have a good day BuickCFI hope this weather gets better.
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Interesting......because I know of a few 415 instructors who have never taught 221/222 before. That's kinda egh....You guys can search back at my threads, but I ended up dismissing a 415 instructor, back when I took it, because I felt he lacked experience and knowledge. I feel for some of the 415 instructors currently out there who have never taught instruments before. It must be stressful knowing you've never taught instrument students yet you're teaching others how to teach instruments...

...but anyway, I think the bonus is there for everyone who meets the minimum hours, not just for full time instructors.
 
AngelFuree said:
Interesting......because I know of a few 415 instructors who have never taught 221/222 before. That's kinda egh....You guys can search back at my threads, but I ended up dismissing a 415 instructor, back when I took it, because I felt he lacked experience and knowledge. I feel for some of the 415 instructors currently out there who have never taught instruments before. It must be stressful knowing you've never taught instrument students yet you're teaching others how to teach instruments...

...but anyway, I think the bonus is there for everyone who meets the minimum hours, not just for full time instructors.
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yeah, that kinda irks me with the CFII w/ no experience teaching others, talk the blind teaching the blind

then again they probably won't be around long enough to even teach instruments......
 
Micaoct said:
You can always do both to be sure. :buck:
I didn't have any problems at all during admission. Guess I got lucky.

Oh, I was just browsing Youtube, this is off topic I can't help but add it. (I guess it is related to earlier posts in the thread. :D)

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Nürburgring at the end of the video! :rawk:
 
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