New Pilot Question...

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Try taking your left foot off the rudder pedal entirely, putting it on the floor during the takeoff roll and using only varying amounts of right rudder pressure. Thanks to the four left-turning tendencies, you won't need any left rudder until well after takeoff. After you've gotten comfortable doing this for takeoffs, try it when you add power for the takeoff portion of a touch & go. It's a useful exercise, try it sometime. But whatever you do, talk to your instructor about it beforehand.

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I wouldn't be comfortable teaching a student take feet off the pedals to overcome an uneasiness using rudder. Thats not how you fly an airplane (one foot on rudder), so why teach a student to do it? This is just one of those things that you'll get over in time. Steering something with your feet is a little unnatural at first, once you get used to it, you'll be fine.

The law of primacy is a powerful thing, and shouldn't be underestimated.

My $.02, take it for what its worth (I know, nothing to you, aloft, we've already established that, so save it).
 
Thanks for the song correction MSTU.... My instructor said the same thing about not taking my foot off the rudder, but rather concentrating on pulling it back slightly. Also, I'm suprised that he isn't having you take it all the way down to the ground with him ghosting you on the controls. Is that normal for a instructor to take over right in ground effect (well, to actually SAY they are doing it... I know they do it anyways!)?

Ethan
 
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Hey,

I have about 5 hours or so logged now.

I am starting to take off and doing touch and go's
with my instructor.

Here is the question:

I feel like I am gonna loose damn control when
we land and then increase speed. Scares the crap
out of me to a point.

Any thoughts on this.

2nd ?

I feel the same way when we take off and I am
controling the pedals.


THanks,

Joel

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I would also suggest that you look further down the runway while you take-off and land, the sight picture will be better and you can see exactly what the airplane is doing. Don't and I repeat don't put your left foot on the floor, place your left foot on the rudder but don't add pressure unless it is needed. Never take your feet off the rudders when you are flying, you never know when you will need it.

I have another suggestion for you and if you do this you will impress your CFI at how well you can climb at ( vy) best rate. After lift off and airpeed rises to vy, put the nose of the plane which would be the top of the cowling where the horizon meets the ground. The horizon is where the sky appears to merge with the ground and this will give you a climb out thats right at vy.

After you level off place your hand on top of the instrument panel with your palm facing you and your fingers pointing to your right. tuck your thumb over and place the horizon just on top of the index finger and viola! Level flight. It sounds strange but these sight references actually work.
 
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What's up with all this passive-aggressive stuff, dude?

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Be the ball, Billy.

Night golfing.
 
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I have another suggestion for you and if you do this you will impress your CFI at how well you can climb at ( vy) best rate. After lift off and airpeed rises to vy, put the nose of the plane which would be the top of the cowling where the horizon meets the ground. The horizon is where the sky appears to merge with the ground and this will give you a climb out thats right at vy.

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This sight picture is different for every type of airplane and also depends on how high the person sits. In a 152, the top of the cowling will be well above the horizon at Vy, for example.
 
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Ah..interesting.

I have not quite landed yet, just above ground effect, he
takes over and sets her down.

Once were down, he has me take her back up.

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Okay, I may be pulling this out of my butt, since I'm not allowed to teach anyone how to fly. Heck, right now, I can't even take anyone up at night besides myself.

But this seems like a very interesting teaching technique. Any of you people who have CFIs want to comment on it?

My thinking, and it could be completely wrong, is that you want to get a new student doing landings safely before you introduce him to touch and goes.

I don't know, so I'm asking.
 
Well, he's not exactly doing a touch and go. He's doing the "go" part.
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I'm not sure what the advantage of it would be other than saving time. I wouldn't introduce T&G's until they're reasonably decent at keeping takeoffs and landings under control. In any case, I'm sure there's some reason he's doing it that way.
 
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I have another suggestion for you and if you do this you will impress your CFI at how well you can climb at ( vy) best rate. After lift off and airpeed rises to vy, put the nose of the plane which would be the top of the cowling where the horizon meets the ground. The horizon is where the sky appears to merge with the ground and this will give you a climb out thats right at vy.

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This sight picture is different for every type of airplane and also depends on how high the person sits. In a 152, the top of the cowling will be well above the horizon at Vy, for example.

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Yes and your correct, I failed to mention that this sight picture is for the cessna 172..
 
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