New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comment

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Displaced... again.
I know there's a thread about this buried back in Feb.

But, I don't think that it's been mentioned in awhile and there's only 3 days left to comment on the FAA's ANPRM.

So, if you haven't already... click on the link at the bottom and take the time to chime in and let the feds know what you think about the proposed rule changes... If all they get are comments from kids at 'The Harvard of the Skies' or Roger Cohen's cronies then, well, all they will see is that there isn't a problem with the current regs and requirements and we can continue to sail on with the status quo. (and we all know where that has got us)

The gov't is the people and change begins with us... don't think that someone else will pipe in for you. If you haven't done so, take the time and make a comment. (especially questions 1 and 2)

Anyhoo... who knows if this whole process is still a going concern with the recent bills that passed the House and Senate, but I figured I would throw it out there.

Here's the summary:

Federal Aviation Administration

14 CFR Parts 61 and 121

[Docket No. FAA-2010-0100; Notice No. 10-02]
RIN 2120-AJ67


New Pilot Certification Requirements for Air Carrier Operations


AGENCY: Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), DOT.

ACTION: Advance notice of proposed rulemaking (ANPRM).

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SUMMARY: This advance notice of proposed rulemaking requests public comment on possible changes to regulations relating to the certification of pilots conducting domestic, flag, and supplemental operations. The purpose of this notice is to gather information on whether current eligibility, training, and qualification requirements for commercial pilot certification are adequate for engaging in such operations. The FAA may use this information to determine the necessity of establishing additional pilot certification requirements and to determine what those new requirements might include.

DATES: Send your comments on or before April 9, 2010.

Questions:

1A. Should the FAA require all pilot crewmembers engaged in part 121 air carrier operations to hold an ATP certificate? Why or why not?

1B. If a part 121 air carrier pilot does not hold an ATP certificate, should he or she nevertheless be required to meet the ATP certificate aeronautical knowledge and experience requirements of Sec. 61.159, even if he or she is serving as SIC? Why or why not?

2A. Are aviation/pilot graduates from accredited aviation university degree programs likely to have a more solid academic knowledge base than other pilots hired for air carrier operations? Why or why not?

2B. Should the FAA consider crediting specific academic study in lieu of flight hour requirements? If so, what kind of academic study should the FAA accept, and to what extent should academic study (e.g., possession of an aviation degree from an accredited four-year aviation program) substitute for flight hours or types of operating experience?

2C. If the FAA were to credit academic study (e.g., possession of an aviation degree from an accredited four-year aviation program and/or completion of specific courses), should the agency still require a minimum number of flight hours for part 121 air carrier operations?
Some have suggested that, regardless of academic training, the FAA should require a minimum of 750 hours for a commercial pilot to serve as SIC in part 121 operations. Is this number too high, or too low, and why?

3A. Should the FAA propose a new commercial pilot certificate endorsement that would be required for a pilot to serve as a required pilot in part 121 air carrier operations? Why or why not?

3B. If so, what kinds of specific ground and flight training should the endorsement include?

3C. The FAA expects that a new endorsement would include additional flight hour requirements. At a minimum, the FAA requests comments on how many hours should be required beyond the minimum hours needed to qualify for a commercial pilot certificate. Some have suggested that the FAA require a minimum of 750 hours for a commercial pilot to serve as SIC in part 121 operations. Is this number too high, or too low, and why?

3D. The FAA is considering proposing to require operating experience in a crew environment, in icing conditions, and at high altitude operations. What additional types of operating experience should an endorsement require?

3E. Should the FAA credit academic training (e.g., a university-awarded aviation degree) toward such an endorsement and, if so, how might the credit be awarded against flight time or operating experience?

4A. Would a carrier-specific additional authorization on an existing pilot certificate improve the safety of part 121 operations? Why or why not?

4B. Should the authorization apply only to a pilot who holds a commercial certificate, or should it also apply to the holder of an ATP certificate?

4C. Should such an authorization require a minimum number of flight
hours? If so, how many hours should be required?

5A. Can existing monitoring, evaluation, information collection requirements, and enforcement associated with pilot performance be modified to improve pilot performance?

5B. If so, what specific modifications should be considered?
http://www.regulations.gov/search/Regs/home.html#documentDetail?R=0900006480a8faeb
 
Re: New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comme

When would this come into force?

Would this change the ability for an individual PPL or CPL holder to get an (SIC) type rating with lower hours? I guess if Part 91 then not.

Alex.
 
Re: New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comme

I don't think this would affect part 91 ops since it is targeted towards 121 ops. I doubt that this would affect the SIC type rating in something. I may be wrong though.

I really hope that they don't pass the part about the multi crew icing crap. That is putting somebody in danger for no reason. Everyone that reads this really needs to send in a comment and ask to get the icing requirement taken out of the proposal, I believe it puts people in dangerous situations that never even need to happen.
 
Re: New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comme

Just answered all questions. 1500 hours, no credit for academic experience were my answers for everything.

And the icing/bad weather experience endorsement being a bad idea. (1500 hours being enough time that one would likely see such conditions anyway).
 
Re: New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comme

Would like to think other pilots are taking more time to fill out the questions that the FAA are asking. Instead of just a one line answer that doesn't really answer their question is doing no justice for or against the issue.
 
Re: New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comme

Added my $.02 about the weather/iceing thing. What a horrible idea they way it's written.
 
Re: New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comme

Would like to think other pilots are taking more time to fill out the questions that the FAA are asking. Instead of just a one line answer that doesn't really answer their question is doing no justice for or against the issue.

I gave fairly detailed answers to all of the questions, but they essentially asked the same question several times.
 
Re: New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comme

I gave fairly detailed answers to all of the questions, but they essentially asked the same question several times.

Was hoping so...didn't want them to come back and say "we gave them a shot to give us their opinion....but nobody took it serious"

Glad to see people are filling it out...if it will do any justice anyway???
 
Re: New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comme

Thanks for posting; I'll provide my input right now.
 
Re: New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comme

Why are scores of people posting the same thing over and over? I'm clicking through the comments to gather some other perspectives and I'm reading the same documents over and over again and it's a little annoying.

For my own education, would someone please explain to me what a "multi crew pilot license" is and why it's a good or bad thing?
 
Re: New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comme

Why are scores of people posting the same thing over and over? I'm clicking through the comments to gather some other perspectives and I'm reading the same documents over and over again and it's a little annoying.

Because that form letter is what the talking head at a certain aviation college told the students to send to the FAA.
 
Re: New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comme

Because that form letter is what the talking head at a certain aviation college told the students to send to the FAA.

Well, they're making themselves look like robots who can't think or come up with their own proposals--not a quality that makes them stand out as professionals. It's not even a well-written or well-thought out memo. I doubt duplicate comments are going to carry much extra weight when the rulemaking process proceeds.
 
Re: New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comme

Depends where you fly.

And what you do. If you're instructing in a 172 or a Seminole for 1500 hours, you'll never see it. Or if you do, it shouldn't be for long. Now, if you go freight when you hit 1200, you'll likely get the time in. If it sticks, my bet is flight schools will start buying stuff certified for known icing and jacking the rates to hell and back.....all while they self insure and hope for the best.
 
Re: New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comme

Well, they're making themselves look like robots who can't think or come up with their own proposals--not a quality that makes them stand out as professionals. It's not even a well-written or well-thought out memo. I doubt duplicate comments are going to carry much extra weight when the rulemaking process proceeds.

I've thought about this for about an hour now, and I'm not sure where to go. Yes, its bad that they are all posting the same thing, but I think it would be worse if they were left to write their own ideas. It would show how truly clueless some people are. And I'm not sure which would be more embarrassing.
 
Re: New Pilot Cert. Reqs. for 121 Ops - 3 Days Left to Comme

I've thought about this for about an hour now, and I'm not sure where to go. Yes, its bad that they are all posting the same thing, but I think it would be worse if they were left to write their own ideas. It would show how truly clueless some people are. And I'm not sure which would be more embarrassing.

It's actually amusing to read some of the comments. One guy (a CFI) said that he was going to "vote out of office" anyone who votes for this "legislation". "The November elections are just around the corner!"

Some Washington bureaucrat is:rotfl:because he knows his job will be secure regardless of what happens in November. Some people really need a lesson on how the government works.
 
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