New air cargo opportunity

69beers

69beers

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Wow, the Kentucky governor just signed off on $40+ million in tax incentives! What a great investment for this region considering how many aviation jobs were lost after the virtual evaporation of Airborne Express, Emery Worldwide and DHL from southern Ohio - northern Kentucky area compared to the heyday in the 90's.

Knowing this industry, I have to wonder how well the "free shipping" will work out as their capital is spent on that whole "owning an airline" thing. Since they're a forward-thinking company with an obvious finger-on-the-pulse of the consumer, I suspect they will achieve some success where others haven't/won't/can't.

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2017/01/31/amazon-to-create-1-4b-air-hub-at-cvg.html
 
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I wonder if at some point Amazon will operate under its own certificate. Depending on how this business grows, ATSG carriers or Amazon may become a career stop for dispatchers instead of a stepping stone. At a minimum it gives new life to the supplemental carriers that had been hurting for a some time.
 
Flagship_dxer said:
I wonder if at some point Amazon will operate under its own certificate. Depending on how this business grows, ATSG carriers or Amazon may become a career stop for dispatchers instead of a stepping stone. At a minimum it gives new life to the supplemental carriers that had been hurting for a some time.
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Don't forget Atlas. Also, Amazon had pulled their flying from ABX due to the strike in December. I'm sure it's ramped back up but I haven't heard of them flying for Amazon again since the strike.


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BoxLuvr said:
Do they have longevity pay?
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The article is talking about the infrastructure Amazon is putting in at CVG, and speculating that their long-game is to take the flying in-house.

So, since "Amazon Prime Air" is not even an actual operating company, I believe the answer is no.
 
BoxLuvr said:
Do they have longevity pay?
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Judging by the responses to the thread titled the same as your question, I'm going to guess no based simply on locality and culture. The culture of the cargo airlines in the KY-IN-OH area, both past and present, seem to reflect just the opposite of what dispatchers described as the culture of airlines that do offer longevity pay. There's nothing wrong with being a stepping stone if that's what the airline wants to be. International heavy jet operations is a great resume builder for someome who wants to work for a major airline someday.
 
69beers said:
Judging by the responses to the thread titled the same as your question, I'm going to guess no based simply on locality and culture. The culture of the cargo airlines in the KY-IN-OH area, both past and present, seem to reflect just the opposite of what dispatchers described as the culture of airlines that do offer longevity pay. There's nothing wrong with being a stepping stone if that's what the airline wants to be. International heavy jet operations is a great resume builder for someome who wants to work for a major airline someday.
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It would be nice to have long term end game option here. It's cheap to live here and the city of Cincinnati is starting to really clean up and become a fun place to be.


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Atc89 said:
300 in Wilmington to "probably" lose their jobs at LGSTX, (part of ATSG).

http://www.whio.com/business/after-...tD6LWoO/?ecmp=whiotv_social_facebook_2014_sfp
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I am extremely interested in following this. Not sure if a hypothetical Prime Air carrier with its own certificate would require prior DX experience, but it's plan for 40 aircraft and the building of the hub around the 2018 timeframe matches nicely with my letter of competency turning into a ticket.
 
CS0290 said:
Would be nice if they recruited from people already in CVG-.
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I'm sure that they will. Aren't Southern/Atlas already in CVG? Plus a lot of ex-Comair people around, I'm sure. But only natural for them to not exclusively look at the CVG area when it comes to recruiting. You want the best candidates for the available jobs, whether or not they already live in the local area.
 
mikecahill19 said:
I am extremely interested in following this. Not sure if a hypothetical Prime Air carrier with its own certificate would require prior DX experience, but it's plan for 40 aircraft and the building of the hub around the 2018 timeframe matches nicely with my letter of competency turning into a ticket.
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Well since the contract is for 7 years as outsourced labor, I wouldn't hold my breath. I think Amazon, with their history of being a really crap company to work for, values whipshawing it's labor over the stability having in house flying would provide for it's customers.
 
Hacker15e said:
Amazon has such a history of treating its employees well and creating a great work environment, I can't wait to see them apply their management philosophy to an airline.
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Yeah, nothing I have read about Bezosebub leads me to believe that him getting more involved in the airline biz is a good thing.
 
Hacker15e said:
Amazon has such a history of treating its employees well and creating a great work environment, I can't wait to see them apply their management philosophy to an airline.
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You aren't a good employee until you're willing to go above and beyond...

...the FAA duty/rest rules, but it's ok we'll keep it off the books.


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